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Job 7:9

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
According to your "bible" there was no rain
in the garden ( desert :D) of eden.
Huh? I wonder how Genesis 2:6 is describing a desert _______________
As far as I know water ' mist ' is Not arid conditions.
Each of the four seasons would go on forever as per Genesis 8:22.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
I don't know... the Book of Mormon says that too, yet members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believe in getting resurrected with their bodies.
I would say Not the literal dead or decomposed bodies, but resurrected with happy-and-healthy physical bodies.
ALL the resurrections that Jesus performed were physical resurrections.
Thus, Jesus was giving us a preview, or a coming attraction of what he will be doing during his 1,000-year governmental rule over Earth.
So, it is No wonder the ' future tense ' is used at Acts of the Apostles 24:15 that there ' is going to be ' a resurrection...
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
It is interesting. It says that once you are dead, you are not coming back....................
I find Job believed he would be coming back according to Job at Job 14:13-15; Job 14:7.
Thus, Job trusted that if he were to die, that his God would call him back form the dead.
At Job 14:12 Job likens death to sleep, and the need to be woken up or aroused from death's sleep.
On our own (Job 7:9) we can Not resurrect oneself or another for that matter.
So, we need someone who can resurrect us. Jesus can and will - Revelation 1:18.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Sorry, but once your mind and body goes...that's it. The cake is a lie. There is no returnsies, no waking up from the dead and no spooks. Brain function cease and so do you. Cake = lie.
I find that Scripture agrees that the dead know nothing, nothing but unconscious sleep.
- Psalms 6:5; Psalms 13:3; Psalms 115:17; Isaiah 38:18; Ecclesiastes 9:5 and what Jesus taught at John 11:11-14.
So, it would be nothing without the Resurrection Hope - Acts of the Apostles 24:15; Revelation 1:18.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Huh? I wonder how Genesis 2:6 is describing a desert _______________
As far as I know water ' mist ' is Not arid conditions.
Each of the four seasons would go on forever as per Genesis 8:22.

Just joking about the desert tho a place where it never
rains is defined so.

The "mist" story is believed by some as factual
history, but then so is the gold books of mormon
story-and books are at least possible w/o magic.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Just joking about the desert tho a place where it never
rains is defined so.
The "mist" story is believed by some as factual
history, but then so is the gold books of mormon
story-and books are at least possible w/o magic.

To me, the mind of God is only found between the pages of Holy Scripture/ aka Holy Bible - 2 Timothy 3:16-17
 

Audie

Veteran Member
To me, the mind of God is only found between the pages of Holy Scripture/ aka Holy Bible - 2 Timothy 3:16-17

You are an odd guy. You so often post responses such
as this, with no connection at all to the post you are
nominally answeing. It like i post about chocolate cake
and you reply with something about geometery.
 

Jay Jacobus

New Member
Huh? I wonder how Genesis 2:6 is describing a desert _______________
As far as I know water ' mist ' is Not arid conditions.
Each of the four seasons would go on forever as per Genesis 8:22.

Let's see. You are saying that without clouds vegatation and land animals would still exist. Am I putting words in your mouth or is that what you are saying?
 

Jay Jacobus

New Member
I find Job believed he would be coming back according to Job at Job 14:13-15; Job 14:7.
Thus, Job trusted that if he were to die, that his God would call him back form the dead.
At Job 14:12 Job likens death to sleep, and the need to be woken up or aroused from death's sleep.
On our own (Job 7:9) we can Not resurrect oneself or another for that matter.
So, we need someone who can resurrect us. Jesus can and will - Revelation 1:18.

Wow. That's your answer? Job was just a man who sufered and spoke in his own defense. God heard his defense and resolved the problem. What else can you make of that?
 

Jay Jacobus

New Member
The book of Job is very difficult to understand. The author seems to have different messages at different parts of the story. One can study Job for many years but usually can't resolve the contradictions.

Perhaps, the text is actually a parody, where Job imitates Satan attacking God to enlighten his friends

Do they get it? Apparently not.

Today we see God differently then people did during Job's tenure. Many, many diseases and misfortunes are attributed to science and fortune. God is a less imposing factor. Thus, we are able to interpret Job in a different light. The author of Job was a genius and somehow his thinking made it into the Bible even though it doesn't seem to fit with other texts. If God exists, He wanted to preserve the author's point of view.
 
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URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
...................... The author of Job was a genius and somehow his thinking made it into the Bible even though it doesn't seem to fit with other texts. If God exists, He wanted to preserve the author's point of view.

The Author of Job ( 2 Timothy 3:16-17) did preserve His point of view.
Sinner Satan challenged Job ( along with the rest of us ) at Job 2:4-5.
Touch our ' flesh '.... ( meaning loose physical health ) and we would Not serve God.
Both Jesus and Job proved faithful to God under very adverse conditions.
Both proved Satan a liar, thus I find so can we.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
You are not dead before you are born you are either unconceived or unborn. After you die, you are no more. It is over. That's it. It's done
' done ' if it wasn't for the resurrection hope - Acts of the Apostles 24:15.
We can't resurrect oneself or another, so we need someone who can resurrect us.
I find Jesus can and will resurrect us - Revelation 1:18.
 
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