John Macarthur opens church

[SkepticThinker]

Yes, God judges evil nations that sacrifice children, so we cannot help bring this into the recent events surrounding this plague. While the medical tyranny preaching folks pretend they want to save lives, millions of babies are murdered and, depending on what stats we use, tens of millions of people are headed to death by starvation from these things.

You've completely avoided the point and have displayed your own hypocrisy on the subject, as you attempt project it onto others.

Again.

 

[SkepticThinker]

You'd have to demo that they were not. You'd have to prove that only by the process of evolving (in imaginary time) could all life have come to exist! You have religion.

No, that's not how the burden of proof works.

You should know how it works at this point. Given the endless time so many posters have spent trying to explain it to you.

You make a claim, you provide the evidence. Otherwise, nobody has any reason to believe it in the first place, and your claim can be dismissed.

Evolution has been thoroughly demonstrated at this point.

Your turn.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Fact check: People have not been developing antibiotic-resistant pneumonia from wearing face masks
Normal use of face masks do not cause pneumonia

Uh-huh. They do too. Just look at all those surgeons and dentists who regularly drop over dead with these illness and everything that mask wearing makes worse.

 

[dad]

Who? You weren't. You were confused again.

Try reading more than your own spam.

 

[dad]

No, I understand the meaning. And yes, your God is ugly. You just admitted it.

To the pure He will show Himself pure. To the ugly.....

 

[dad]

Fact. One that you know is true because you run away from discussing the concept.

The topic is being discussed.

 

[dad]

I didn't say anything about water.
I didn't say nothing was created. I said there are no "created kinds." I'm aware of what that concept is, and the fossil record, DNA, and few other things utterly destroy that hypothesis.
Does this internal anatomy remind you of anything?

I had thought you referred to the supposed abortion in the old testament, in that case it was God, not the water that judged.

As far as created kinds you have no clue what may have been created. That pig don't fly. We could have dissected an animal in Eden and had a similar result, that does not mean Adam was not also there.

 

[dad]

Um, that wasn't crying wolf.
It was an observation and recommendation based on the terrible reality of the situation we were facing at the time.

Now in the US, doctors and nurses are facing PPE shortages all over again.

Believe them if you like. I do not trust a medical system that kills millions.

 

[dad]

Please don't change the subject. You're the one who changed it to abortion in the first place. Now you're trying to pivot away from it.

There is no danger of catching bacterial pneumonia from wearing masks. If that were the case, doctors and nurses all over the world would be coming down with it on a mass scale. So would the rest of us, who are wearing masks. Think about it. There have been no giant increase in cases of bacterial pneumonia. Please stop spreading misinformation you read on Facebook. It's dangerous.

Fact check: People have not been developing antibiotic-resistant pneumonia from wearing face masks
Normal use of face masks do not cause pneumonia

Yet we could list oodles of sites that say there is a link. Example

Bacteria were the real killers in 1918 flu pandemic

Bacteria Fingered As Killer In 1918 Flu Pandemic

You need to fact check your so called fact checkers. Please stop fearmongering and spreading disinformation.

 

[dad]

Sure. Andrea Yates got a confirmation from God that it was a good idea to drown her five children in a bath tub. A bunch of terrorists got a message from God that they should fly airplanes into buildings in NYC.
Messages from God(s) are unreliable and unverifiable. Attempting to read the mind of god(s), even more so.

No terrorist ever confirmed anything in Scripture and instead simply mislabeled mass murder. You are in no position to tell millions of us that God did not confirm Himself. Seriously?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Try reading more than your own spam.

This is a personal attack and not allowed on this site. I do not spam. I gently correct and offer help.

To the pure He will show Himself pure. To the ugly.....

Nope. If that was the case you could support your claims. Or are you saying that you are not "pure". It appears you are in the latter category.

The topic is being discussed.

Right, the one that you ran away from. Are you willing to discuss the Test of an Unfaithful Wife?

No terrorist ever confirmed anything in Scripture and instead simply mislabeled mass murder. You are in no position to tell millions of us that God did not confirm Himself. Seriously?

And how do you demonstrate that your beliefs are any different or more valid than what you label as 'terrorists'?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I had thought you referred to the supposed abortion in the old testament, in that case it was God, not the water that judged.

That is god's law demanding a fetus be aborted. To kill the unborn fetus with the bitter waters.
Now, consider this. Today a man telling a woman she must have an abortion would not be legal. Regardless of how it is done, by rituals with gods or doctors in clinics.

As far as created kinds you have no clue what may have been created. That pig don't fly. We could have dissected an animal in Eden and had a similar result, that does not mean Adam was not also there.

It's the fact that on the inside pigs look kind of like us that suggests we probably share something common way down the line. Probably much further than other apes though, since we're still a lot alike in many. But never the less we have some stuff and arrangements that look basically the same as us in an entirely different species.
When we look at DNA we have a scant similarity to daffodils, and genetically we even have a chunk of ourselves in common with dogs. Even trees. This suggests that something even much further back gave birth to all life on the planet. How else can we all be so common, yet so different?

 

[dad]

This is a personal attack and not allowed on this site. I do not spam. I gently correct and offer help.



Nope. If that was the case you could support your claims. Or are you saying that you are not "pure". It appears you are in the latter category.



Right, the one that you ran away from. Are you willing to discuss the Test of an Unfaithful Wife?



And how do you demonstrate that your beliefs are any different or more valid than what you label as 'terrorists'?

Your opinion on this thread topic then?

 

[dad]

That is god's law demanding a fetus be aborted. To kill the unborn fetus with the bitter waters.
Now, consider this. Today a man telling a woman she must have an abortion would not be legal. Regardless of how it is done, by rituals with gods or doctors in clinics.

The water did nothing at all. Anyone could drink it. The only one that need worry would be the person who greatly sinned and deserved punishment. In other words, the water did nothing, God did. (actually since the law probably instilled a fear of God, maybe no one ever had to face such consequences) Take that as a good lesson on child sacrifices. Deterrence for a crime helps keep some from committing the crime. Now since Israel was God's people at that time, maybe they would generally be more prone to fear God and obey. In this modern world, which is worse than the pre flood world, probably a lot of people would not fear consequences or God or anything else, and commit crimes proudly despite deterrence. But that's another story.

It's the fact that on the inside pigs look kind of like us that suggests we probably share something common way down the line.

False. The way physical creatures look cannot tell us what a man is, or how he was created.

Probably much further than other apes though, since we're still a lot alike in many. But never the less we have some stuff and arrangements that look basically the same as us in an entirely different species.
When we look at DNA we have a scant similarity to daffodils, and genetically we even have a chunk of ourselves in common with dogs. Even trees. This suggests that something even much further back gave birth to all life on the planet. How else can we all be so common, yet so different?

Since plants also share the common physical things, that should tell us that we could never use this to know where we came from. You leap to conclusions based on nothing at all but faith.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The water did nothing at all. Anyone could drink it. The only one that need worry would be the person who greatly sinned and deserved punishment. In other words, the water did nothing, God did.

Yup. That was god. performing abortions and demanding it be done under those circumstances.
That is illegal today, very fortunately.

False. The way physical creatures look cannot tell us what a man is, or how he was created.

It certainly does help us solve these questions.

Since plants also share the common physical things, that should tell us that we could never use this to know where we came from. You leap to conclusions based on nothing at all but faith.

How else do you explain thess common traits among such radically different life forms, while yet still being as different as we are. Our DNA is 99% similar to that of a chimp. How does one explain this without us having a common ancestor?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Your opinion on this thread topic then?

Much more than that. I am always willing to educate.

 

[SkepticThinker]

I had thought you referred to the supposed abortion in the old testament, in that case it was God, not the water that judged.

As far as created kinds you have no clue what may have been created. That pig don't fly. We could have dissected an animal in Eden and had a similar result, that does not mean Adam was not also there.

We have no clue what may have been created because the people asserting that kinds have been created have utterly failed to demonstrate that there are any created kinds at all.
So I don't see any reason to consider anything about kinds until that day comes because I don't feel like wasting time considering or believing things for which there is no evidence.

Of course, we could all just make stuff up like you're doing here, but I'm interested in believing factual things, so I'm out on that.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Yet we could list oodles of sites that say there is a link. Example

Bacteria were the real killers in 1918 flu pandemic

Bacteria Fingered As Killer In 1918 Flu Pandemic

You need to fact check your so called fact checkers. Please stop fearmongering and spreading disinformation.

These articles aren't relevant and don't come anywhere close to providing evidence for your claims that wearing a mask leads to contracting bacterial pneumonia.
Your articles say nothing about masks having anything to do with contracting bacterial pneumonia. In fact, I didn't even see the word "mask" mentioned in either of them.
In fact, it is stated that, "That pneumonia causes most deaths in an influenza outbreak is well known." Because, of course it is.

Read more: Bacteria were the real killers in 1918 flu pandemic

I'm guessing you didn't even read beyond the headlines, given what you've claimed is quite different from what is actually stated in those articles.
Next time you want to talk down to me about providing evidence and knowing what I'm talking about ... remember this post.


Stop being a spreader of myths and misinformation. And stop projecting your failings onto me. I am not spreading misinformation. That is you.

 

[SkepticThinker]

No terrorist ever confirmed anything in Scripture and instead simply mislabeled mass murder. You are in no position to tell millions of us that God did not confirm Himself. Seriously?

You are in no position to tell someone else that God didn't tell them to fly planes into bulidings.
And you are in no position to tell someone that God didn't tell someone to drown her five children in the bath tub.

See how that works?

 

[Subduction Zone]

These articles aren't relevant and don't come anywhere close to providing evidence for your claims that wearing a mask leads to contracting bacterial pneumonia.
Your articles say nothing about masks having anything to do with contracting bacterial pneumonia. In fact, I didn't even see the word "mask" mentioned in either of them.
In fact, it is stated that, "That pneumonia causes most deaths in an influenza outbreak is well known." Because, of course it is.

Read more: Bacteria were the real killers in 1918 flu pandemic

I'm guessing you didn't even read beyond the headlines, given what you've claimed is quite different from what is actually stated in those articles.
Next time you want to talk down to me about providing evidence and knowing what I'm talking about ... remember this post.


Stop being a spreader of myths and misinformation. And stop projecting your failings onto me. I am not spreading misinformation. That is you.

Pneumonia is usually not a factor until the immune system has already been weakened. In the same way pneumonia is quite often the cause of death for AIDS patients. The virus itself does not kill people, it weakens the immune system so that almost anything can kill a person.