Burning Giraffe
Member
McCain is attacking Obama's lack of military service. I know, I know, I didn't see it coming either. I mean, the shock. The utter bewilderment!
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John McCain and GOP Shock the Nation!
- Thread starter Burning Giraffe
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Dunemeister
Well-Known Member
I wish politicians would be less predictable.
Scuba Pete
Le plongeur avec attitude...
I went to college under the GI Bill as a War Orphan. Hey, they ultimately killed my Dad, it was the least they could do.
It's amazing that McCain would turn on the veterans in this manner. They have sacrificed a lot and we need to support them in every way that we can. It's bad enough we ask them to kill in the name of profits for Haliburton, I am sure that we can afford to do this.
It's amazing that McCain would turn on the veterans in this manner. They have sacrificed a lot and we need to support them in every way that we can. It's bad enough we ask them to kill in the name of profits for Haliburton, I am sure that we can afford to do this.
NoahideHiker
Religious Headbanger
It looks more like he was bringing up Obama's lack of experience in Washington than his lack of experience in the military.
And wasn't this the same military spending bill where Congress slipped in a provision that would give 5 million illegal immigrants a five year work visa?
Burning Giraffe
Member
Hey, don't get me wrong. I can't stand Obama's new role as the Christ Child of the Democratic Party. I thought things were bad when Kerry was the nominee. Obama is worse. That said, McCain has taken pandering to such a low and embarrassingly obvious artform that I can see no way for him to contend with Obama's cleverly planned one word campaign.
Jeremy Mason
Well-Known Member
How about Hillary's reason for staying in the race. Something about, well look what happen to Bob Kennedy.
Burning Giraffe
Member
I don't think you know what you are talking about.
lilithu
The Devil's Advocate
Seemed pretty clear to me what Jeremy was talking about. Clinton was asked why she was still in the race and one of the things she said was that anything can happen to change the primaries, look what happened to Bobby Kennedy.
:cover:
In her defense, this comment was so patently stupid that I can only interpret it as stupidity, not malice.
Burning Giraffe
Member
ummm. No. That's not what happened at all. She was talking about campaigning in June. The "assassination" comment was meant to be related to the comment immediately before, which was talking about Bill Clinton campaigning in June, something Kennedy was also doing in June. The assassination was the end to that campaign. The point being, there is no reason why Hillary shouldn't be campaigning in June. She still has time. The hysteria surrounding her comments is just that... hysterical. Its unbelievable the amount of disrespect Democrats have shown for the Clintons over the last six months.
Scott1
Well-Known Member
Ummmm... does anyone else agree that military service might be of crucial importance for a potential Commander in Chief of our armed forces.... especially while we are bogged down on two fronts?
Smoke
Done here.
In the same way that having been a cable installer qualifies you to be president of Time Warner?
It seems to me that Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who was not a veteran, did quite a bit better than Richard Nixon, who was.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Not unless the president has plans to fight alongside the troops on the ground. Besides, I thought we were talking about better benefits and coverage for veterans?
Scott1
Well-Known Member
Well...maybe it only matters to soldiers... but I guess no one agrees....:foot:
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Why would a veteran try to screw other veterans out of adequate benefits and coverage? We're having maimed and disabled soldiers who are not getting cared for. Why are chest thumping flag wavers denying them?
Scott1
Well-Known Member
You'd have to ask that particular veteran... I sure wouldn't.
Hey... it's a capitalist country... there's no money in helping wounded soldiers... I don't think that's news to anyone.
Thanks for the chat.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Is that the way it should be?
Scott1
Well-Known Member
I'm a disabled veteran.... so I certainly think it should be a bit different.
lilithu
The Devil's Advocate
Well, one would think that a person who has experienced actual combat would be less likely to romanticize it as something glorious, and thus less likely to take us into war. To that extent, I agree.
But I don't think that any old military experience helps in the nitty gritty of strategy. Does someone who served as a private really know that much more about how to fight a war than your average civilian? If a mind for military strategy is our main concern, we shouldn't vote for anyone less than a general.
Personally, I'd rather vote for someone who is smart enough to listen to the generals who are advising him or her.
Burning Giraffe
Member
I don't think so. Just because someone is a great baseball player, doesn't make him a good manager. (Same is true in basketball - See Isiah Thomas) At this point, we should be looking at a persons foreign policy to gage how the military would be used and whether or not we approve of it being used that way.