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Judge not lest you be judged you Obama false accusers

factseeker88

factseeker88
The wild accusations made up by the right wing violate the Bible:

JUDGE NOT, LEST YE BE JUDGED.

The modern versions are: It takes one to know one, or you have to be one to recognize the same thing in another person.

Point being you cannot create anything. that you have to be familiar with it, before you can relate with anything.

:yes::yes::yes:

"This moment is your life." Omar Khayyam

"Our belief or disbelief of a thing does not alter the nature of things” Tillotson
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
The wild accusations made up by the right wing violate the Bible:

JUDGE NOT, LEST YE BE JUDGED.

The modern versions are: It takes one to know one, or you have to be one to recognize the same thing in another person.

Point being you cannot create anything. that you have to be familiar with it, before you can relate with anything.

:yes::yes::yes:

"This moment is your life." Omar Khayyam

"Our belief or disbelief of a thing does not alter the nature of things” Tillotson

Which wild accusations would you be referring to?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
While I have seen many wild accusations, such as being Kenyan, or the must immoral and unethical president in US history, or taking guns away from gun owners, there are indeed many valid criticisms against him such as; continuing two wars; continuing the Patriot Act; reversing his decision to close Guantanamo; letting BP off the hook after the Gulf spill; announcing the Gulf was clean and open for business when in fact it wasn't (and still isn't last I knew); lying about drone strikes.
 

Phil25

Active Member
The wild accusations made up by the right wing violate the Bible:

JUDGE NOT, LEST YE BE JUDGED.

The modern versions are: It takes one to know one, or you have to be one to recognize the same thing in another person.

Point being you cannot create anything. that you have to be familiar with it, before you can relate with anything.

:yes::yes::yes:

"This moment is your life." Omar Khayyam

"Our belief or disbelief of a thing does not alter the nature of things” Tillotson
There are plenty of non-christian, right wing people who hate Obama.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
1John.4[20] "If any one says, 'I love God,' and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, cannot love God whom he has not seen."
 

esmith

Veteran Member
The wild accusations made up by the right wing violate the Bible:

JUDGE NOT, LEST YE BE JUDGED.

The modern versions are: It takes one to know one, or you have to be one to recognize the same thing in another person.

Point being you cannot create anything. that you have to be familiar with it, before you can relate with anything.

:yes::yes::yes:

"This moment is your life." Omar Khayyam

"Our belief or disbelief of a thing does not alter the nature of things” Tillotson

I think your assumption leaves considerable room for dispute. You are attempting, it appears, to say if one criticizes Obama(in this case) for something then you must also believe, support, or exhibit the same flaw that you are criticizing him for. Does one have to be:
A child molester to recognize that this is a despicable act
A rapist to recognize that this is wrong
A murder to recognize that it is immoral
I think you might get my point.
Just because one sees in what Obama does, say, or exhibit does not mean that one also has these tendencies. I think you are interpreting, either mistakenly or purposely to further a point, that part of the bible.
 

Jensen

Active Member
Why is it that those that judged Bush so harshly are so concerned about Obama being judge?
Do not assume that it goes only one way, as it doesn't.
 

factseeker88

factseeker88
Why is it that those that judged Bush so harshly are so concerned about Obama being judge?
Do not assume that it goes only one way, as it doesn't.

The difference is Obama doesn't need to judge and the right wingers do it over and over again, hoping that some of it sticks.

"This moment is your life." Omar Khayyam

"Our belief or disbelief of a thing does not alter the nature of things” Tillotson
 

Jensen

Active Member
The difference is Obama doesn't need to judge and the right wingers do it over and over again, hoping that some of it sticks.

"This moment is your life." Omar Khayyam

"Our belief or disbelief of a thing does not alter the nature of things” Tillotson


Didn't say Obama judged......
 

Jensen

Active Member
the verse listed above is speaking of judging others ...

Matthew 7 King James Version (KJV)

7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?


The judging has always gone both ways when it comes to political things,

And so it should stop on both sides.
To say or imply that judging is only done from one side is incorrect.
And misinformation.
And lack integrity.
 

factseeker88

factseeker88
the verse listed above is speaking of judging others ...

Matthew 7 King James Version (KJV)

7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?


The judging has always gone both ways when it comes to political things,

Maybe in the past but not now. Republicans accuse with no evidence or tapes, MSNBC backs up their accusations with incriminating tapes of the republican actually doing or saying it.

:yes::yes::yes:

“No lesson is so deeply inculcated by the experience of life as that you should never trust experts.” Lord Salisbury

"Question everything." TV Science channel
 

Wirey

Fartist
The wild accusations made up by the right wing violate the Bible:

JUDGE NOT, LEST YE BE JUDGED.

The modern versions are: It takes one to know one, or you have to be one to recognize the same thing in another person.

Point being you cannot create anything. that you have to be familiar with it, before you can relate with anything.

:yes::yes::yes:

"This moment is your life." Omar Khayyam

"Our belief or disbelief of a thing does not alter the nature of things” Tillotson

But it's true. It was him who let the dogs out!
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Maybe in the past but not now. Republicans accuse with no evidence or tapes, MSNBC backs up their accusations with incriminating tapes of the republican actually doing or saying it.

:yes::yes::yes:

“No lesson is so deeply inculcated by the experience of life as that you should never trust experts.” Lord Salisbury

"Question everything." TV Science channel
Democrats also make wild accusations, and MSNBC is just as biased.
And you can't believe them just because they have evidence. The Right had evidence of Hillary's Benghazi speech, even though it was taken extremely out of context. MSNBC's own ranting mad-man, from awhile ago (I don't remember his name), had his evidence, and applied the same twist Fox is known for. About the only difference is Fox has a larger investor demograph and covers alot more money-stuff, and Fox is much more negative and angry.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Even though both Fox and MSNBC are primarily partisan, what does appear to be different with both is that at least most of the time MSNBC seems to at least get the facts correct whereas that is certainly less true with fox, and three different non-partisan studies have borne this out.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Even though both Fox and MSNBC are primarily partisan, what does appear to be different with both is that at least most of the time MSNBC seems to at least get the facts correct whereas that is certainly less true with fox, and three different non-partisan studies have borne this out.

Could you cite one example of this for us?
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Even though both Fox and MSNBC are primarily partisan, what does appear to be different with both is that at least most of the time MSNBC seems to at least get the facts correct whereas that is certainly less true with fox, and three different non-partisan studies have borne this out.


Hmm one must assume you are reading MSNBC's own press releases. Maybe the following will expose MSNBC as the most opinionated "cable news".

Is MSNBC worse than Fox News? - POLITICO.com
MSNBC Almost Entirely Dominated By Opinion: Pew Study
25 Examples of MSNBC Race-Baiting, Lies & Left-Wing Nonsense Show Why RNC is Banning the Network
http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=138269
A New Survey Says MSNBC Is The Least Trusted TV News Source | MadameNoire
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
But NPR says Fox News is the worst.
And they should know....they say they're neutral & objective...entirely without any bias.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
There's a difference between "opinions" and "facts", and I did differentiate between the two in my response.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
There's a difference between "opinions" and "facts", and I did differentiate between the two in my response.
The Politico article clearly states MSNBC itself has a heaping portion of "opinions" and goes skimp on "facts." The facts are, real news is hard to come by, and when you find it there is a fairly good chance it isn't American. Even the BBC covers American news better than just about any American network. Fox and MSNBC are both crappy, opinion loaded propaganda machines. They are both a part of the problem in why so many people are misinformed about world events, political and economic labels, and even what someone says because they both hack up events, speeches, and writings and Frankensteins them back together into an out-of-context monstrosity that keeps people focused on the external appearance of the news, rather than presenting them with the real nature of the news.
 
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