Judgement

[Curious George]

"the other ingredients"

All other variables equal, both have all those "other ingredients" who is more likely to make a good judgment call?

Lol. Let us explore a scenario. We will label the scenario "equation."

Two people with no mathematical background and no innate mathematical abilities are given the to possible answers to a very complex mathematical equation. Neither would understand how to do the math. However, one of them is also given the equation despite not understanding how to do the math. Which is more likely to choose the correct answer?

From what I can tell, they are both 50% likely to get the answer. The ability to see the equation doesn't translate into any increase in judgment.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

Lol. Let us explore a scenario. We will label the scenario "equation."

Two people with no mathematical background and no innate mathematical abilities are given the to possible answers to a very complex mathematical equation. Neither would understand how to do the math. However, one of them is also given the equation despite not understanding how to do the math. Which is more likely to choose the correct answer?

From what I can tell, they are both 50% likely to get the answer. The ability to see the equation doesn't translate into any increase in judgment.

I have already admitted that truth does not always lead to good judgment, so I am not sure what you are tying to prove with a scenario. However, believing what is true will lead to good judgment more often then believing what is not true. And I am sure if you worked hard enough at it you could also think of several scenarios where that is true.

I think the connection between truth and good judgement is abundantly clear, which is why I think people have an ethical duty to truth, and the reason I work so hard at accuracy. As I said, truth has value, and that value comes through when we are trying to comprehend our lives and the world around us. I am not going to go too far out of my way to try convince you of that value, because frankly I think it is common sense.

Besides, if you can't read a math equation, then you don't really have access to that equation.

 

[Curious George]

I have already admitted that truth does not always lead to good judgment, so I am not sure what you are tying to prove with a scenario. However, believing what is true will lead to good judgment more often then believing what is not true. And I am sure if you worked hard enough at it you could also think of several scenarios where that is true.

I think the connection between truth and good judgement is abundantly clear, which is why I think people have an ethical duty to truth, and the reason I work so hard at accuracy. As I said, truth has value, and that value comes through when we are trying to comprehend our lives and the world around us. I am not going to go too far out of my way to try convince you of that value, because frankly I think it is common sense.

Besides, if you can't read a math equation, then you don't really have access to that equation.

Truth has value. But good judgement is derived from knowledge, not truth. Knowledge entails truth but truth does not entail knowledge.

 

[james bond]

That is clearly a troll response. Or a joke maybe? A trolling joke? I don't know you well enough to say.

I suppose it seems like trolling to unbelievers, but I stand by it.

Just this morning I heard a local expert explain: "Due to climate change (warmer fall temperatures) and the presence of milkweed, overwintering monarch butterflies are breeding at Lake Merritt (Oakland, CA) when they would normally be sleeping through the winter."

Now, what made me suspect this local person was wrong?

Q. Why do morarchs migrate and not hibernate?
A. This is an excellent question! For some reason, monarchs have just not evolved to hibernate. Iit's a hard question to answer, because we need to know the evolutionary history of monarchs. We are quite sure that the ancestors of monarchs were tropical butterflies that could not survive long periods of very cold weather. When monarchs moved into areas that had cold winters, they never evolved the ability to tolerate these winters, and need to migrate to warmer locations.Many people think that monarchs evolved in the tropics, and just move north each spring to take advantage of all the milkweed we have in the summertime. Most other temperate insects can withstand the freezing temperatures of winter by entering a state called "diapause." Some do this as eggs, others as larvae, pupae or adults.

Journey North: Monarch Butterfly

And sure enough, the Lake Merritt Butterfly Whisperer concurs, " Our local Monarchs migrate to the central deserts (Mojave or Arizona) in February, then to British Columbia in late spring, returning to the Bay Area in the fall."

Butterfly Whisperer Brings Monarchs to Gardens and Lakeside Park - Gardens At Lake Merritt

 

[Desert Snake]

"Your premise seems to be trying to make a situational idea, an absolute."

No, it is not. You are adding context that is not there. The OP is not a end all be all statement about truth.

Tell me do you think it is possible for someone to be right and for someone to be wrong?

The original premise isn't a statement at all; I would say it has no answer, because it's contextual as to relevance.


Yes, you could be wrong, or right.

 

[Cephus]

You can be right on some things and wrong on others.

Clearly, but are you more likely to be right on things that you have factually correct beliefs on, or on things that you have factually incorrect beliefs on? That's the question.

 

[David T]

Ceteris paribus, who is more likely to make a poor judgment call?

Someone who believes what is not true and makes judgments based on those beliefs.

Or

Someone who believe what is true and makes judgments based on those beliefs.

How many angels can dance on the head of a pin? Does the crAnium dictate anything at all? Is my magical brain power running the ocean somehow? According to general accedemic reasoning yes!! We just disagree on the details.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

Does the peanut butter go on the top slice of bread, on a peanut butter & jelly sandwich, or on the bottom slice of bread?

Obviously the top, every time! It is called "peanut butter AND jelly" not 'jelly and peanut butter'!