Julian Assange Says They Have More Material On Hillary

[Revoltingest]

Exactly.
Hillary is much better able to get to the goals of Sanders' Revolution than Sanders. That is why he joined the Democrats.
And why he is now staunchly supporting the DNC. Which includes Hillary, and DWS.
Tom

And for me this is the problem with Hillary.
I like Sanders cuz he could succeed at de-militarizing our foreign policy,
but he'd fail at his more 'socialistic' goals. Odd, ain't it? I can largely
disagree with him, find him a shrill old commie curmudgeon, but think
he'd be a good president.
If I were to lunch with any of the candidates, he'd be my first pick.

 

[columbus]

If I were to lunch with any of the candidates, he'd be my first pick.

Me too.
Could we and @Saint Frankenstein move this derail to a more appropriate thread?
Such as

~ The Clinton Victory Thread ~

Tom

 

[Revoltingest]

Me too.
Could we and @Saint Frankenstein move this derail to a more appropriate thread?
Such as

~ The Clinton Victory Thread ~

Tom

My post was merely a parenthetical aside.
You guys may continue without me.

 

[columbus]

I am more interested in what his agenda is.

I don't think his agenda is difficult to understand any more. He likes dictatorship and will do what he can to promote them, whether it's Putin or Trump.

Back when he hacked and published all those embarrassing USA emails out of context, I wondered if he would also publish Russian, Israeli, Chinese, or Saudi email. The answer is NO.
Now he is publishing hacked email from the DNC. Everyone knows that the GOP has actually stolen primary delegates from Trump. But I don't see any hacked email describing how Colorado decided to give all the delegates to Cruz.

It is Assange's clear agenda to oppose western democratic republics. How could this be made more clear?
Tom

 

[columbus]

The idea that one would be very angry with Assange for messing with elections and then support Hillary is just completely alien to me.

I don't see the connection between the two.
Tom

 

[Kapalika]

Manning is a true patriot same as Snowden and others. They are holding to American ideals even when it means opposing a corrupt government that wants its dirty secrets to never see the light of day. If they got dirt on Hillary, I say show it. I can't see many liberals condemning him for it since many already knew of the DNC's bias for Hillary. At least I won't, and many I know won't.

Also, just because something is illegal doesn't mean it's right. In the case of Manning she exposed horrid war crimes. If anything, there was a higher law that called for it to come to light of day. If anyone watches all of Collateral Murder and still somehow think there wasn't any wrongdoing on the part of the gunner, the commander and the pilot then something is deeply, deeply wrong with them. Even if at first there was mistaken identity, what made it straight up war crime, illlegal murder was when the commander gave permission and the gunner gunned down an unarmed non-combatant who was getting evacuated by civilians. Even if they WERE enemy troops, it is HIGHLY illegal to shoot medics, particularly unarmed ones. The gunner knew that, as evidenced by waiting for the reporter to 'pick up a weapon' before he was allowed to shoot. He was itching for it. Then when the family saw a hurt reporter and tried to rescue him, even if he thought it was an enemy van trying to recover their dead and wounded as he told the commander, it would still be highly illegal to kill any of them. And yet, watching it, he specifically targeted the dying reporter.

All this illegal crap that the government is hiding is hurting our nation. Whistle blower laws are being eroded and totalitarianism is taking over and trying to curb not just our personal freedoms but the freedom of the press. I don't care what politicans take fire. If they have done something illegal, the public has a RIGHT to know regardless of the source it is from. Yes, a lot of military documents were released too, but as @Shadow Wolf pointed out same as the Pentagon Papers no lives were put in danger by it.

As far as Russian involvement as some have suggested, it's more likely that like Snowden, it's one of the few places they can seek asylum. I believe it's more about convenience than any kind of alliance. This new idea that wikileaks is somehow a Russian front is rather convenient in my mind. They have been involved in a lot more than just exposing the American government, and for much longer than any of these issues talked about.

This election is an entire joke anyway. We had a decent chance with Sanders, but we got two lying pieces of garbage running now. We can only hope we luck out and both get hit by a train or something.

 

[PeteC-UK]

Hi Folks..

Surely - the actual TRUTH is all that matters - ever..???...

Its pretty obvious that ALL governments the world over tell lies to each other AND their own people ALL the time...It may shock some to learn - but BEHIND the worlds governments is indeed another layer of hidden heirachy that we rarely get to even glimpse....Your American election for example - Clinton AND Trump - BOTH just "puppets" for those in control behind the scenes...They themselves might not even realise it fully - yet - but rest assured Folks - your congress - my parliament - ALL the worlds gments - merely puppets being manipulated ALWAYS...

Sooooo - if someone wants to dig into all that as far down as they can get - expose that every chance they get and bring us some legitimate truth perhaps out in the open plain for all to see - then I for one say more power to him - lets indeed have at it and allow the truth to be known FREELY......I couldnt care less WHO he "works" for or what his personal motives are - fact is - if he reveals legitimate truth then that can only ever be a GOOD thing in this bogus world society we have now..

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Well like her record speaks for itself.

Meaning what?

If I would rather have Hillary then Trump I would support her. I don't. Neither would not work towards my interests.

If your interests aren't women's rights, LGBT rights, minority and immigrant rights, a public option for healthcare, higher taxes on the wealthy, etc. then I suppose I see your point.

How is Stein divisive?

She's actively trying to split the Democratic vote by wooing progressive Democrats. She doesn't care if that succeeds and causes Trump to win. She's pretty much insane and a backstabber. Her, and the people like her, are naive idealist types who will not compromise and are willing to shoot themselves in the foot and hurt us all because they want it their way and they want it now. They're typically middle class or wealthy Berkeley types who live in a safe bubble but pretend to be radicals, not knowing what reality is like.

Sure, they may have an agenda. Doesn't really change that Hillary is a piece of trash.

How is she a "piece of trash", objectively speaking?

Why does it matter?
If he can reveal actual reasons for Hillary to sink, she should sink.

Why isn't he trying to hurt Trump? Why is he only targeting Hillary? This matters a lot. You think Trump and the Republicans are cleaner than Hillary?

 

[Revoltingest]

I don't think his agenda is difficult to understand any more. He likes dictatorship and will do what he can to promote them, whether it's Putin or Trump.

Back when he hacked and published all those embarrassing USA emails out of context, I wondered if he would also publish Russian, Israeli, Chinese, or Saudi email. The answer is NO.
Now he is publishing hacked email from the DNC. Everyone knows that the GOP has actually stolen primary delegates from Trump. But I don't see any hacked email describing how Colorado decided to give all the delegates to Cruz.

It is Assange's clear agenda to oppose western democratic republics. How could this be made more clear?
Tom

Maybe by trying to keep The Hildabeast out of office,
he's actually enhancing democracy in the west, eh?
Or perhaps some people are more careful with their
emails than Hillary or the DNC?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Basically the people bashing Assange dislike that he's revealing corruption of the candidates they like and not the one's they oppose.
If the tables were flipped and wikileaks ignored Hillary and just leaked things like Trump's taxes they would be sharing it everywhere and talking about what heroes wikileaks were.

No. I never did really like Assange.