Yes, and the species that have been observed reproduce how fast?
Poor you guys. I am taking about the FOREST. You are talking about a tree. Nice tree! Keep looking at it.
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Poor you guys. I am taking about the FOREST. You are talking about a tree. Nice tree! Keep looking at it.
Prove it. I have looked it up and what I see is them talking about something different. I think it HAS NOT been estimated how many changes have occurred in DNA to get us where we are.
God or whoever that nut is with me says, "they're tied to it". I think I shouldn't think it is funny.
Ya but, it is GOD who originated the physics for that.
What do you guys think? That maybe we believe everything for the physical universe existed and God just used it?
Let's just say the universe is really only twenty billions years young.
First I have to qualify something.
YOU guys need figures to understand anything. That is called The World.
The Spirit is not like that.
I see the equation without the figures. I know you do not care about equations without figures, but, anyway, the equation says that there could have been more changes in the DNA to get life as it is presently that there are "years" in the universe. God says the universe doesn't have years because years are only on the Earth.
Now let's hop to the age of Earth. Let's estimate high and say it is five billion years old. The Earth is old.
God says you all better start getting peace before you might never see it here. And that would be a shame.
Surely, you have to be able to see that the DNA would have had to evolve more than five billion times. I am hoping.
Life though didn't start five billion years ago. Right?
First life might have begun almost four billion years ago.
If you can see how many changes in the DNA from that time on, you would have many, many more than one each human year. Evolution has been studied seriously for some time and some changes have been found. But.........not enough!
Do you all really think that the changes necessary to get from simple plant life to the human brain were less than how many years Earth has existed?
First I have to qualify something.
YOU guys need figures to understand anything. That is called The World.
The Spirit is not like that.
I see the equation without the figures. I know you do not care about equations without figures, but, anyway, the equation says that there could have been more changes in the DNA to get life as it is presently that there are "years" in the universe. God says the universe doesn't have years because years are only on the Earth.
Now let's hop to the age of Earth. Let's estimate high and say it is five billion years old. The Earth is old.
God says you all better start getting peace before you might never see it here. And that would be a shame.
Surely, you have to be able to see that the DNA would have had to evolve more than five billion times. I am hoping.
Life though didn't start five billion years ago. Right?
First life might have begun almost four billion years ago.
If you can see how many changes in the DNA from that time on, you would have many, many more than one each human year. Evolution has been studied seriously for some time and some changes have been found. But.........not enough!
Do you all really think that the changes necessary to get from simple plant life to the human brain were less than how many years Earth has existed?
But they didn't choose mates with longer necks, it's just that those born with longer necks ate better, and were bigger, stronger, didn't starve during famines, laid more eggs and, thus, became more numerous.
This has not been established. It may apply to your everyday experience, but not to physical reality.
The reality described by modern physics is pretty counter-intuitive.
We are in a thread about evolution. Evolution can't be without cause.
I have to admire your determination to stick to your faith regardless of facts or reason.
Where do you come up with this stuf? I've never seen someone twist himself into such fantastic knots.
But the 'cause' is natural, not supernatural. The mechanisms involved -- which you're apparently unaware of -- don't require any intenionality or manipulation.
You are skirting the question! Everyone is. It isn't funny.
The changes? A few? Or many?
Maybe you think it isn't too problematic for DNA to change an organism into something else that is wonderful and self-sufficient. If it is so easy, why can't PEOPLE do it? Come on!
They always resort to insults when they wish to ignore a question. Fine! It's not like people don't know you are doing it.
I am just saying that all the changes that would have had to have happened could not have FIT into the years of Earth. Trust me with is. LOL
What you are saying is only one change can transform something into something new. Sometimes one and sometimes many.
Or are you saying that the genotype need not change at all?
But clearly they did, considering the variety of species.
These changes aren't linear. They occur with each generation, which are happening millions of times per second. Moreover, a thousand changes might have no discernible effect, while a single one might could produce a whole different individual.
It is obvious it is not clear to some of us. I have to believe that the changes could not have been random or perhaps they were but each and every random change was beneficial to the coming organizm.......which we know is mathematically impossible. Isn't it? When I see the many changes need be (and I am not referring to only one line of evolution) I just have to add in all the changes that didn't produce something of substance. Of every adaptation in the DNA that produced anything substantial, there were many, many, many more that didn't. Please try hard to consider HOW MANY. It is clear to me that if you are right evolution now is NOTHING like it must have been before this time. The changes must have happened at a fantastic rate! Why has evolution slowed to a crippled crawl, in your opinion? You are going to say it hasn't slowed. LOL
I agree with that.
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Evolution hasn't slowed. Where do you get your information?
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