Just out of idle curiosity -- about the election...

[Revoltingest]

Ok, whatever.

Brilliant retort!

Not worth my time anymore, think what you want.

I have your permission?
Woohoo!

You are like Jerry Jones and the curtain, cannot admit when you are obviously wrong due to stubborness in my opinion.

What am I so "obviously" wrong about?

As for "stubbornness"....that's the wrong word.
I'm obsessive. When I see stupid unsupported claims
that are dangerous to people & the country, I just
can't stop myself from countering them, & rubbing
the poster's nose in their fallacies, foibles, & foolishness.

I have no good evidence Trump won the election.

Does this mean that you believe it, but just can't prove it.?

 

[BrightShadow]

California alone still has over 4 million votes yet to count! The uncounted votes haven't disappeared--they just haven't been counted yet!

Did they hire undocumented migrants to help with the counting? Why are they taking so loooong?

 

[Heyo]

Did they hire undocumented migrants to help with the counting? Why are they taking so loooong?

It takes so long because they did not hire undocumented migrants - just like it will be next harvest. Prepare for food shortage.

 

[an anarchist]

has anyone noticed a single member on the left complaining

I’ve noticed A LOT of complaining. They just have different excuses than the Republicans did.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Which means he hasn't conceded if he can't recognize Biden won.
Has Trump called Biden to congratulate him on the win?

Ok, again he said this:

Now, Congress has certified the results. A new administration will be inaugurated on January 20. My focus now turns to ensuring a smooth orderly and seamless transition of power.

If you don't think he conceded I am ok with that.

 

[John D. Brey]

California alone still has over 4 million votes yet to count! The uncounted votes haven't disappeared--they just haven't been counted yet!

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the 2020 presidential election saw the highest voter turnout of the 21st century with "66.8% of citizens 18 years and older voting."​

​

USA Today.​

Even allowing for another 4 million votes, 2020 had almost 10 million more votes than this election. It was an anomaly. And in time the truth of why there were so many votes will likely come out. Had Trump's case come to court, he could have examined the number of registered voters, versus the votes counted, and won the case. Naturally, that would have taken time, coordination, and cooperation. Elements that weren't to be forthcoming when the ugly result would have led to convictions on the Democrat side rather than taking that evil Donald Trump to court and blaming everything on him. What a loser he is. Winning the election, having it stolen, and wanting to uncover the truth. Lock him up.



John

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Brilliant retort!

I have your permission?
Woohoo!

What am I so "obviously" wrong about?

As for "stubbornness"....that's the wrong word.
I'm obsessive. When I see stupid unsupported claims
that are dangerous to people & the country, I just
can't stop myself from countering them, & rubbing
the poster's nose in their fallacies, foibles, & foolishness.

I am ok with you believing Trump never conceded.

Does this mean that you believe it, but just can't prove it.?

No, How can I believe something I have no good evidence for?

 

[an anarchist]

I’ve noticed A LOT of complaining. They just have different excuses than the Republicans did.

Gosh it’s been non stop comparing since he won. Woopie doo you guys don’t say it was stolen illegally you guys just say everyone who voted against what you wanted is stupid/racist/fascist/blah blah blah ad naseum 100+ threads over

Go ahead and give each other a pat on the back and reach around for not complaining a specific way…

I’VE HAD IT WITH THE POLITICS!!!! I don’t leave the site cuz I message people here but ugh the front page is ugh

 

[Revoltingest]

No, How can I believe something I have no good evidence for?

Faith?
Loyalty?
Necessity?

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Faith?
Loyalty?
Necessity?

Nope, No one can just believe something is true by deciding to. They can say they do or act like they do, but they cannot believe it without evidence.

 

[Revoltingest]

Nope, No one can just believe something is true by deciding to. They can say they do or act like they do, but they cannot believe it without evidence.

But you can't quite bring yourself
to openly admit you believe Trump
won in 2020, eh.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

But you can't quite bring yourself
to openly admit you believe Trump
won in 2020, eh.

I have said twice now that I don't have enough evidence to believe Trump won. So no I don't believe he won. What is so hard to understand here?

 

[John D. Brey]

Rubbish! If it was, then how come so many Republicans (important as to the process) didn't side with Trump's claims as to such? You have been brain-washed as to this.

We know there are quite a lot of nevertrump conservatives. And we know Trump fired dozens of his own people (who stabbed him in the back before and after they were ousted). True leaders ruffle feathers. True leaders fire a grip of losers. Biden ruffled no feathers. He didn't fire a sole. Those he should have fired forced him out.

King David's own son put together a group of neverDavid zealots and overthrew his dad. True leaders ruffle a lot of feathers. The Absalom revolution turned out like this election. David returned to power stronger than ever, and the opposition fell on their swords while the most sordid ones were sworded.



John

 

[Revoltingest]

I have said twice now that I don't have enough evidence to believe Trump won. So no I don't believe he won. What is so hard to understand here?

The underlined portion is the 1st time stated.
Instead of all the tap dancing around the issue,
now your position is clear.

 

[Mock Turtle]

We know there are quite a lot of nevertrump conservatives. And we know Trump fired dozens of his own people (who stabbed him in the back before and after they were ousted). True leaders ruffle feathers. True leaders fire a grip of losers. Biden ruffled no feathers. He didn't fire a sole. Those he should have fired forced him out.

King David's own son put together a group of neverDavid zealots and overthrew his dad. True leaders ruffle a lot of feathers. The Absalom revolution turned out like this election. David returned to power stronger than ever, and the opposition fell on their swords while the most sordid ones were sworded.



John

No, they had moral scruples as to not following his idiotic and blatant attempts at stealing the election. Any who follow him as to such are also morally bankrupt in my view.

 

[crossfire]

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the 2020 presidential election saw the highest voter turnout of the 21st century with "66.8% of citizens 18 years and older voting."​

​

USA Today.​

Even allowing for another 4 million votes, 2020 had almost 10 million more votes than this election. It was an anomaly. And in time the truth of why there were so many votes will likely come out. Had Trump's case come to court, he could have examined the number of registered voters, versus the votes counted, and won the case. Naturally, that would have taken time, coordination, and cooperation. Elements that weren't to be forthcoming when the ugly result would have led to convictions on the Democrat side rather than taking that evil Donald Trump to court and blaming everything on him. What a loser he is. Winning the election, having it stolen, and wanting to uncover the truth. Lock him up.



John

4.13 million from California, plus the rest of the uncounted votes from the rest of the states, plus 1.5+ million who perished during the Covid, plus the just over 147 million GOP/Dem votes counted, plus the as yet untotaled 3rd party votes as of yet is not enough to put 2020 results of the 155.5 million Rep/Dem total plus just under 3 million 3rd party votes = 158,429,631 total from 2020 in the anomalous range just yet. In 2020, the libertarian party got 1.18% of the vote, whereas the Green Party got only 0.26% of the vote. Third party percentages so far seem to be much higher in 2024 than in 2020. This election it looks like the Green party is kicking the Libertarian party's butts. This increase in the percentage of the Green Party Vote is probably drawn from democrats who see Kamala Harris as too authoritarian and a bit too far right for their taste.
With so many votes left to count yet, you really can't make any such claims of 2020 being an anomaloly at this time.

 

[Revoltingest]

No, they had moral scruples as to not following his idiotic and blatant attempts at stealing the election. Any who follow him as to such are also morally bankrupt in my view.

Many Magas I know IRL are utterly unaware of
Trump's attempt to stage a coup, ie, steal the election
using fake electors, orders, & threats. They're not
morally bankrupt....just aggressively ignorant.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Since Donald Trump and JD Vance won the election, and the Republicans regained the Senate, has anyone noticed a single member on the left complaining about how the whole thing was rigged, and the election was stolen from Harris/Vance?

It does seem a tad different from this same time 4 years ago, doesn't it?

And MAGA just readily and easily accepted the election results, just like that. No question. Nothing.
Funny thing, that. I guess the Democrats just forgot how to cheat this time around.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Garbage. Throwing smug insults around at half the country ain't classy, honorable or showing integrity. And you wonder why you lost the election. Stop thinking you're so better than everyone you disagree with.

And yet Trump does this on a daily basis and you support him.

 

[BrokenBread]

Since Donald Trump and JD Vance won the election, and the Republicans regained the Senate, has anyone noticed a single member on the left complaining about how the whole thing was rigged, and the election was stolen from Harris/Vance?

It does seem a tad different from this same time 4 years ago, doesn't it?

I know with 1 billion dollars gone in the wind & still 20 million in debt to boot along with a campaign of misinformation designed to garner as much ill-gotten gain as possible while at the same time disenfranchising their own democrat voters.
Having known the truth of the disaster of an electoral drubbing they were in for ahead of time you really can't blame them for blowing smoke up the posterior of their own voters for the purpose of fleecing them to feather their own nests at voter's expense before the electoral tsunami just those enriching themselves knew was coming .
Well done Kamala and Company . I applaud you .
They will never be able to find where all the money went so there will never be any criminal charges to concern yourself about .


Opinion

Harris Raised $1 Billion. Where Did it All Go?​

Edith Olmsted
Fri, November 8, 2024 at 3:18 PM EST
2 min read

Kamala Harris raised more than $1 billion for her presidential campaign … which ultimately failed. In the afterglow of stunning defeat, some Democrats are now asking how she could have possibly spent anywhere near that much money and still lost her shot at the White House.
The Harris campaign finished out the race with at least $20 million in debt, two sources familiar told Politico’s Christopher Cadelago, who wrote on X Wednesday night that of the $1 billion Harris had raised, only $118 million remained in cash as of October 16.