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Just sitting here watching Barrs testimony.

Daemon Sophic

Avatar in flux
The more Dems dig into this stuff, the more 2020 will slip through their fingers.

I remember when GW Bush won his second term. The Dems I knew were in utter disbelief and didn’t understand. I expect the same to happen again.
You'll find out shortly. :D

Alright then. It’s decided.
All the facts and evidence point to Trump impeachment, and a route of the lying, corrupt, anti-American Repugnicans in 2020.
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I’m glad to see that Barr will be leading the crazy zealot congo-line, with Trump and Graham, straight into prison for their crimes against our great nation. :D


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SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
He wasn't asked to cite it at the hearing. That's the Dems fault for not asking.

An investigation has began though. So soon we all shall know exactly what's up.

When the FBI wiretapped Trump during his campaign at the behest of Obama. That is abuse of power.
They did ask, at the last hearing.
During the Senate Appropriations subcommittee hearing, Barr had said he believed there had been spying going on. When asked what evidence he had, he had nothing to offer and said it was his belief.

Sorry but Trump has the Abuse of Power department all locked down. How can you seriously watch this President, read the report and all the things he's done, and sit here and conclude that Obama is the one who has abused his power? I mean, it's just mind boggling.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Alright then. It’s decided.
All the facts and evidence point to Trump impeachment, and a route of the lying, corrupt, anti-American Repugnicans in 2020.
scale_of_justice.jpg

I’m glad to see that Barr will be leading the crazy zealot congo-line, with Trump and Graham, straight into prison for their crimes against our great nation. :D


usa-american-flag-gif-3.gif

LOL

You keep on living in your fairy tale.

Reality will come soon to give you a rude awakening.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
They did ask, at the last hearing.
During the Senate Appropriations subcommittee hearing, Barr had said he believed there had been spying going on. When asked what evidence he had, he had nothing to offer and said it was his belief.

Sorry but Trump has the Abuse of Power department all locked down. How can you seriously watch this President, read the report and all the things he's done, and sit here and conclude that Obama is the one who has abused his power? I mean, it's just mind boggling.

I know my mind is trapped by reality and facts vs what the media is telling me.

Free thought, critical thought, what a concept! You should try it sometime.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Incorrect, Mueller said Barrs summary was accurate but the media had misrepresented it.



Yes he did. It was Muellers call to make, and he did bot have enough evidence to prosecute, so he handed it off to Barr to look at. Barr concurred and the matter is settled.



Incorrect, or else charges would be filed.



Obviously it does or else charges would have been filed.
You literally have no clue how the legal process in this area works, plus you simply completely blow off what Mueller's letter actually stated and implied.

On top of those, you really can't seem to even begin to connect the dots when it comes to Trump's behavior as to why he has repeatedly tried to stop the investigations, and then you seemingly cannot even connect the dots whereas five of Trump's staff have already plead guilty and taken plea deals as they have now admitted lying about their foreign connections.

There also the Wikileaks and Trump connection whereas Trump asked them to look into and release Hillary's e-mails, which is clearly a violation of the law. Plus Assange had Russian connections and helped the Trump camp through them, and yet you simply blow that off as well.

C'mon, these dots are not that hard to connect, plus let me suggest you look up the legal process for Congressional investigations when it comes to dealing with a sitting president. All I see you doing is inventing or parroting rubbish that can all so easily be checked out to see that you're simply wrong.

It is just so brazenly undemocratic for you to ignore the dangers that these contacts with the Russians have been, especially since it is clear through Mueller's report that the Russians were aiding and abetting Trump by trying to influence American voters through bots and the release of e-mails hacked illegally. And yet you can't see or even acknowledge that threats that this poses to this country, and you don't even seem to care about that.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Incorrect, Mueller said Barrs summary was accurate but the media had misrepresented it.



Yes he did. It was Muellers call to make, and he did bot have enough evidence to prosecute, so he handed it off to Barr to look at. Barr concurred and the matter is settled.



Incorrect, or else charges would be filed.



Obviously it does or else charges would have been filed.
You must live in some alternative reality or something.

Mueller never mentioned the media.
What he said was, "The summary letter the Department sent to Congress and released to the public late in the afternoon of March 24 did not fully capture the context, nature, and substance of this Office’s work and conclusions. We communicated that concern to the Department on the morning of March 25. There is new public confusion about critical aspects of the results of our investigation. This threatens to undermine a central purpose for which the Department appointed the Special Counsel: to assure full public confidence in the outcome of the investigations."
READ: Full text of Mueller’s letter to Barr criticizing report summaries


He's stating that the "public confusion about critical aspects of the investigation" are the result of Barr's misrepresentation of the "context, nature and substance" of the Mueller Report.

That the media is responsible for the confusion is your spin on it.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
You must live in some alternative reality or something.

Mueller never mentioned the media.
What he said was, "The summary letter the Department sent to Congress and released to the public late in the afternoon of March 24 did not fully capture the context, nature, and substance of this Office’s work and conclusions. We communicated that concern to the Department on the morning of March 25. There is new public confusion about critical aspects of the results of our investigation. This threatens to undermine a central purpose for which the Department appointed the Special Counsel: to assure full public confidence in the outcome of the investigations."
READ: Full text of Mueller’s letter to Barr criticizing report summaries


He's stating that the "public confusion about critical aspects of the investigation" are the result of Barr's misrepresentation of the "context, nature and substance" of the Mueller Report.

That the media is responsible for the confusion is your spin on it.

Incorrect, the media is responsible for misrepresenting Muellers letter to Barr. Barr clarifies this in his testimony.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
I know my mind is trapped by reality and facts vs what the media is telling me.

Free thought, critical thought, what a concept! You should try it sometime.
Actually, it appears that you are getting all of your information from media spin, rather than from the Report and letter themselves.
And you're gonna implore me to think for myself? o_O That's after you avoided the content of my post. :smile:
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Incorrect, the media is responsible for misrepresenting Muellers letter to Barr. Barr clarifies this in his testimony.
Mueller's letter said no such thing. That's your spin on it. Who cares what Barr's beliefs are? Especially when he refuses to provide any evidence for them.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Sorry but Trump has the Abuse of Power department all locked down. How can you seriously watch this President, read the report and all the things he's done, and sit here and conclude that Obama is the one who has abused his power? I mean, it's just mind boggling.
It's possible that both abused power.
What a strange season politics has entered, eh.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Actually, it appears that you are getting all of your information from media spin, rather than from the Report and letter themselves.
And you're gonna implore me to think for myself? o_O That's after you avoided the content of my post. :smile:

Nope, I sat and watched the 5 hourish testimony.

You are the one consuming media spin.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Mueller's letter said no such thing. That's your spin on it. Who cares what Barr's beliefs are? Especially when he refuses to provide any evidence for them.

Barr is the A.G. you should care what he thinks. Because he is investigating the corruption of the Dems.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Barr is the A.G. you should care what he thinks. Because he is investigating the corruption of the Dems.
I don't care what his spin on the Report and letter are when I can read both for myself and see that his spin his just that.
Ah, I see. So you're cool with the President's corruption?
 

Shad

Veteran Member
They did ask, at the last hearing.
During the Senate Appropriations subcommittee hearing, Barr had said he believed there had been spying going on. When asked what evidence he had, he had nothing to offer and said it was his belief.

Barr is using spying as an umbrella term. Any type of surveillance falls under spying. The investigation which contains surveillance is his evidence via his definition and use of spying. He said this at another point
 
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