Kaine appears not to understand the laws related to national security. Does that disqualify him?

[Underhill]

You post this like it hasn't happened before.

However, being born "here" isn't the only way to be a natural born citizen. I am an American Born Abroad and am eligible to run as well. Unfortunately, my IQ exceeds the current limit applied by the public.

I understand that. Just being glib. The point is that there is really not much that can disqualify someone from office. What qualifications there are have always seemed a bit pointless to me.

 

[Quetzal]

Maybe they can both explain to the moderator in the next debate why they are not 'special snowflakes' as far as obeying the law

You keep repeating this without providing examples or evidence. I am not saying you are wrong, but I am suspicious because you are not addressing the questions/concerns that I am trying to talk about.

 

[Scuba Pete]

As far as obeying the law Hillary has the more to explain.

Only if you believe the FUDDD of the White wingers. All the accusations of wrong doing I have seen are nothing more than fantasy. We get it: you hate Clinton. If she sneezes you accuse her of spreading biowarfare. However, as he has said, Trump could gun down a number of people and you would give him a pass.

 

[metis]

No, no.... Trump doesn't assume he's a 'special snowflake' like Hillary does and he doesn't assume he's above the laws written for everyone else...

If someone listens to their advisers and doesn't fake a convenient blood clot in the brain that comes and goes at just the right legal times, they can use qualified advisers to shore up the gaps . Hillary's problem is the people around her don't shore up the gaps, they whitewash the problems.

Oh, much like the Trump supporters conveniently ignore the barrage of constant insults coming from Trump's mouth, matched with his saying one lie after another, according to Politifact? Since when was this ever allowed in Christian teaching, whirlingmerc? I don't recall reading anything in the gospels that condone such things.

 

[McBell]

The mother of a sailer who snapped a picture with no ill intention is headed for prison and is flabberghasted at Kaines answers.

Slow news day?
Or perhaps their authors had the day off?

 

[Wirey]

barrage of constant insults coming from Trump's mouth, matched with his saying one lie after another

anything in the gospels that condone such things.

Irony meter at 7.5! Lies and insults? The gospels? Just me?

 

[whirlingmerc]

"...speaking the truth in love...", from Ephesians, comes to mind

 

[metis]

"...speaking the truth in love...", from Ephesians, comes to mind

Oh, so making fun of a handicapped man, body-shaming women, saying a judge should be disqualified because he's of Mexican heritage, being married three times while cheating on one of his wives, bragging about his affairs with other women, calling people names, and all this on top of stating he doesn't need God's forgiveness, so this is all fine & dandy with you? "Interesting". Maybe you can cite chapter and verse whereas Jesus says or implies that this is all very moral?

 

[Scuba Pete]

C'mon @metis, you're trying to reason with an unreasonable person. It don't work.

 

[metis]

C'mon @metis, you're trying to reason with an unreasonable person. It don't work.

I'm actually trying to appeal to his faith because I simply cannot for the life of me understand how anyone who has a devout belief in Jesus could even think about voting for Trump based on Trump's actions and words, and I have never before ever said this about any candidate for president from either the Republican or Democratic Party, and I've been voting since the mid-1960's. As Gandhi often said, anyone who thinks that there can be a full separation of church and state simply doesn't understand religion-- and I would add they don't understand politics either.

 

[BSM1]

I'm actually trying to appeal to his faith because I simply cannot for the life of me understand how anyone who has a devout belief in Jesus could even think about voting for Trump based on Trump's actions and words, and I have never before ever said this about any candidate for president from either the Republican or Democratic Party, and I've been voting since the mid-1960's. As Gandhi often said, anyone who thinks that there can be a full separation of church and state simply doesn't understand religion-- and I would add they don't understand politics either.

I think the very same thing can be said of Hillary.

 

[BSM1]

Here are the qualifications for president.

"No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States."

So, as far as the law is concerned, a person could be a mentally handicapped lunatic with a history of pooping on Park Avenue and still be 'qualified' for president if he was born here and over 35.

Even the oath they take only says 'to the best of his ability' so a bad memory or a mental disorder doesn't mean he broke his oath.

It can, and hopefully would, loose him/her votes. But if you meet the constitutional requirements I don't know that you can be legally disqualified.

This is where the Electoral College would (hopefully) step in and do it's job by disqualifying this candidate through the voting process.

 

[jonathan180iq]

Oh, much like the Trump supporters conveniently ignore the barrage of constant insults coming from Trump's mouth, matched with his saying one lie after another, according to Politifact? Since when was this ever allowed in Christian teaching, whirlingmerc? I don't recall reading anything in the gospels that condone such things.

If I've said it once I've said it 100 times... The Bible references the folly of lying much more often than homosexuality.

Where's the outrage? Where's the protest?

 

[Scuba Pete]

@metis. if you want to understand Trump and his followers' blind devotion, read the "Art of the Deal". Please don't buy it, but get it from your library. Trump will do or say anything to close the deal... this is his biggest deal yet. I hope the electorate tells him: "You're fired!"

 

[metis]

I think the very same thing can be said of Hillary.

Only if one uses false equivalencies, and the fact that so many Republicans have ridiculed and abandoned Trump should tell anyone that this guy is "something else". And if you caught the news last night, he has admitted that he can grope women, which is called "sexual assault" and is a felony.

 

[metis]

@metis. if you want to understand Trump and his followers' blind devotion, read the "Art of the Deal". Please don't buy it, but get it from your library. Trump will do or say anything to close the deal... this is his biggest deal yet. I hope the electorate tells him: "You're fired!"

And he has admitted as such by repeatedly stating that he'll say pretty much anything to "close the deal".

 

[BSM1]

Only if one uses false equivalencies, and the fact that so many Republicans have ridiculed and abandoned Trump should tell anyone that this guy is "something else". And if you caught the news last night, he has admitted that he can grope women, which is called "sexual assault" and is a felony.

Well, let's see. How many women have accused Trump of "sexual assualt"? How many women has the other candidate not defended when they were "sexually assualted" by her husband? Hmmm....

 

[metis]

Well, let's see. How many women have accused Trump of "sexual assualt"? How many women has the other candidate not defended when they were "sexually assualted" by her husband? Hmmm....

Um, let me remind you that Trump admitted to groping women, and this doesn't even include a great many lewd statements that he has made. Secondly, there has not been put forth any evidence, only an accusation, that Bill may have assaulted a woman, and if he did, that's deplorable to me, but is Trump's recorded responses deplorable to you or are you just going to give him a fee pass? Thirdly, Bill ain't the one running for president.

Hey, when it comes to false equivalencies, you with the Trifecta, BSM1! Congrats!

BTW, did you see the AP article about what he had repeatedly said on "The Apprentice" that was also recorded and witnessed to by quite a few people? Some networks have asked for these recordings but so far they've not even gotten a response.

 

[BSM1]

Um, let me remind you that Trump admitted to groping women, and this doesn't even include a great many lewd statements that he has made. Secondly, there has not been put forth any evidence, only an accusation, that Bill may have assaulted a woman, and if he did, that's deplorable to me, but is Trump's recorded responses deplorable to you or are you just going to give him a fee pass? Thirdly, Bill ain't the one running for president.

Hey, when it comes to false equivalencies, you with the Trifecta, BSM1! Congrats!

BTW, did you see the AP article about what he had repeatedly said on "The Apprentice" that was also recorded and witnessed to by quite a few people? Some networks have asked for these recordings but so far they've not even gotten a response.

Let's name a few of Trump's victims: I'm waiting. Now let's name a few women that have been victimized or helped to be victimized by Hillary: Monika Lewinsky, Juanita Broaddrick, Paula Jones, Kathleen Wiley,.....et al. I think you get the drift.

 

[McBell]

I think you get the drift.

Yeppers.
You are big on counting the hits and ignoring the misses.

Though you may find it impressive, to those who are not fooled by said fallacy, it merely makes you look at best foolish, at worse, a liar.