Kapala (Scalp) liberation...

[Viraja]

On His 111th Birthday Dr.Sri Shivakumar Swamiji doing Mantra Japa with Rudraksha Mala in Siddhaganga Math,Tumkuru.

This is a public post made by one of my facebook friends.

It seems for those who penance / do japas very regularly (always) will have their Kundalini will emerge from Sahasrara and reach Ajna chakra and vice versa and will leave a dent across the middle of the scalp, in a straight vertical line (notice the dent in Swamiji's scalp). (Sorry for my poor description, I am at a loss for sophisticated words to describe this but those interested could view the line in the scalp of swamiji in the attached video).

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10216406978624458

The author speaks of 'Kapala mukthi/moksha' (liberation from the scalp).

 

[Aupmanyav]

At birth, the human skull is made up of 44 separate bony elements. During development, many of these bony elements gradually fuse together into solid bone (for example, the frontal bone). The bones of the roof of the skull are initially separated by regions of dense connective tissue called fontanelles. There are six fontanelles: one anterior (or frontal), one posterior (or occipital), two sphenoid (or anterolateral), and two mastoid (or posterolateral). At birth these regions are fibrous and moveable, necessary for birth and later growth.

A sunken (also called "depressed") fontanelle indicates dehydration or malnutrition. The fontanelles may be enlarged, may be slow to close or may never close most commonly due to causes like: Down syndrome, Hydrocephalus, Intrauterine growth restriction (IUGR), Premature birth.

 

[Kapalika]

SKapala means skull right?

*looks around nervously hoping no one notices her name*

But similarly to Aup, I'm wondering if something else might cause it. Do/can chakras really affect someone's bone structure so dramatically? I'm hesitant to believe it. Many other physical/health factors could be at play.

More interesting to me... does 'liberation from the scalp' mean as in, using it towards liberation? Or from it? As in from the mind/ego? Just hoping to clarify.

 

[Aupmanyav]

But similarly to Aup, I'm wondering if something else might cause it. Do/can chakras really affect someone's bone structure so dramatically? I'm hesitant to believe it. Many other physical/health factors could be at play.

More interesting to me... does 'liberation from the scalp' mean as in, using it towards liberation? Or from it? As in from the mind/ego? Just hoping to clarify.

I would totally discount it. In some cases their may be a ridge instead of depression, again due to genetics and nutrition. Yeah, these are metaphoric images.

 

[Viraja]

SKapala means skull right?

*looks around nervously hoping no one notices her name*

But similarly to Aup, I'm wondering if something else might cause it. Do/can chakras really affect someone's bone structure so dramatically? I'm hesitant to believe it. Many other physical/health factors could be at play.

More interesting to me... does 'liberation from the scalp' mean as in, using it towards liberation? Or from it? As in from the mind/ego? Just hoping to clarify.

Kapalika,

Please note, the sage's age is 111... and he has spent a lifetime praying *always* (as in the video).

An interesting article on kapala liberation: Indian Heritage - Kapala Moksha by C.R.Kaushik

 

[Viraja]

If you notice carefully, at the center of the head, there seems to be a circular depression of sorts... right above where Sahasrara is located?

 

[Aupmanyav]

Sahasrara/Brahmarandhra: That is known in medicine as 'Anterior Fontanelle'.

 

[Kapalika]

A thought I just had, as I was reading about something unrelated with the head a couple of days ago, but skull structure can change slightly due to hormonal changes in adulthood and so I think it's possible that changes in nutrition over long periods of time could cause this. A lot of ascetics eat very little. If he's spent a large portion of his life eating as little as possible, it could slowly change the structure over time.

Still though, I think the importance isn't any physical changes. Ultimately the truth is spiritual and I'd be much more interested in discussing that if you are too.

 

[Viraja]

A thought I just had, as I was reading about something unrelated with the head a couple of days ago, but skull structure can change slightly due to hormonal changes in adulthood and so I think it's possible that changes in nutrition over long periods of time could cause this. A lot of ascetics eat very little. If he's spent a large portion of his life eating as little as possible, it could slowly change the structure over time.

Still though, I think the importance isn't any physical changes. Ultimately the truth is spiritual and I'd be much more interested in discussing that if you are too.

I am thankful someone is interested in this topic, as I want to hear their thoughts which interest me very much.

I know that those who are spiritual (the right way -- concentrating on personality evolution and not limited to religious confinements alone) travel across the solar path to reach worlds outside of the milky way galaxy, on to very illuminated and unique spiritual worlds. It is also discussed those who are not spiritually evolved but have been doing good reach the lunar pathways, that is, they are confined to this world and take eminent re-births till their merits expire.

Skull liberation is said to free one from bondage.

 

[Kapalika]

travel across the solar path to reach worlds outside of the milky way galaxy, on to very illuminated and unique spiritual worlds.

Look I don't know how literal you take this but it sounds like some of this is beyond the scope of my religious beliefs so I can't really give you a good answer. At the very least we are not talking the same "language" if you are being metaphorical.

I believe in Samsara and liberation from it. I believe in a mind which can, upon Moksha be reconfigured into Shiva. I don't think us, as humans, can extend our consciousness to specific worlds in the Universe. I would be lying if I said I didn't believe there is life out there but I don't think anything living off of Earth could extend their mind to here either. There may be nonlocalized spirits but that's another matter. I've experienced spirits claiming to be that but I always take such things agnostically.

 

[Viraja]

Look, I too discussed about "my" (Hindu) religious beliefs because you said the following in one of your above messages -

"Ultimately the truth is spiritual and I'd be much more interested in discussing that if you are too."

My faith is Hindu, and all that I said above regarding solar and lunar pathways are from
Bhagawath Geetha, Chapter 8. If you have no interest in discussing about these, then why ask for those?

 

[Kapalika]

Look, I too discussed about "my" (Hindu) religious beliefs because you said the following in one of your above messages -

"Ultimately the truth is spiritual and I'd be much more interested in discussing that if you are too."

My faith is Hindu, and all that I said above regarding solar and lunar pathways are from
Bhagawath Geetha, Chapter 8. If you have no interest in discussing about these, then why ask for those?

I don't recall that in the Gita...

I went ahead and checked Chapter 8 in the "As it is" translation and noticed the mention of "planets" but the concept of planets wasn't back then like it is today; Krishna speaks of a "material planet' but I'm pretty sure that he means "realms". When I've read it in the past and even now I never took it to mean literal planets out in space which is what I thought you might of been saying which is why I asked.

Verse 13

"After being situated in this yoga practice and vibrating the sacred syllable om, the supreme combination of letters, if one thinks of the Supreme Personality of Godhead and quits his body, he will certainly reach the spiritual planets."

Where I added emphasis tells us these are not literal or physical places, from how I understand it.

 

[Aupmanyav]

May I remind my two friends here that "paramam gatim" does not mean planets. Even Prabhupda's translation says "Supreme destination". The translation even by the meaning of words (synonyms) given by him (or his disciples) does not mean planets.

Let us do the exact translation of what Krishna said:

oḿ - the combination of letters oḿ (oḿkāra); iti - thus; eka-akṣaram - the one syllable; brahma - absolute; vyāharan - vibrating; mām - Me (Kṛṣṇa); anusmaran - remembering; yaḥ - anyone who; prayāti - leaves; tyajan - quitting; deham - this body; saḥ - he; yāti - achieves; paramām - the supreme; gatim - destination.

oḿ thus the one syllable absolute vibrating Me remembering anyone who leaves quitting this body he achieves the supreme destination.

"Oḿ is one absolute vibrating syllable (representing) Brahman, anyone who leaves the body remembering Me (obviously, Brahman) thus (by saying Oḿ), he achieves final stage/state/destination (moksha)."

Gati: I get a huge many meanings of 'gati' at Sanskrit Dictionary for Spoken Sanskrit. The most appropriate to the context are given first.

Course of the soul through numerous forms of life, state, situation, condition of a person undergoing this migration, way of going, certain division of the moon's path and the position of the planet in it, mode of existence, happy issue, condition, going, way, place of issue, proportion, means, progress, acting accordingly, meaning, recourse, obeisance towards, issue, path, position, reason, means of success, going, procedure, arriving at, help, stratagem, obtaining, kind of rhetorical figure, course, deportment, resource, metempsychosis, going away, passage, being understood or meant, passageway, alternative, term for prepositions and some other adverbial prefixes when immediately connected with the tenses of a verbor with verbal derivatives, origin, manner, moving, gait, running wound or sore, method of acting, happiness, march, way or art, particular high number, possibility, manner or power of going, expedient, procession, movement, refuge.

 

[Viraja]

Bhagawad Gita chapter 8 gives the great sloka:

TEXT 10
prayana-kale manasacalena
bhaktya yukto yoga-balena caiva
bhruvor madhye pranam avesya samyak
sa tam param purusam upaiti divyam
TRANSLATION
One who, at the time of death, fixes his life air between the eyebrows and in full devotion engages himself in remembering the Supreme Lord, will certainly attain to the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
That is, if you stay focused on the good Lord while at the time of death, you will reach his domain and be one with him. Nevertheless, who can think of god while at the time of death? Only those who have practiced considerable bakthi yoga during lifetime.

But, regardless, Kanchi Varadharaja (Narayana) revealed to Srimad Ramanujacharya that it is not necessary for one to focus on the Lord/god while passing away. It is one of the six revelations that were replied to Srimad Ramanuja via the latter's guru to whom the Lord spoke regularly.

@Kapalika:

In another link titled 'Journey of the soul after death', I have attached a link to the 2 different pathways as explained by Bhagawad Gita chapter 8. If interested, please have a look.

Thanks all.

 

[Kapalika]

Sure, I'll check it out. Sorry for my late reply, the site didn't notify me of the reply for some reason.

 

[ajay0]

It seems for those who penance / do japas very regularly (always) will have their Kundalini will emerge from Sahasrara and reach Ajna chakra and vice versa and will leave a dent across the middle of the scalp, in a straight vertical line (notice the dent in Swamiji's scalp). (Sorry for my poor description, I am at a loss for sophisticated words to describe this but those interested could view the line in the scalp of swamiji in the attached video).

I am aware of an enlightened master having something of the same on the scalp, from a disciple's report in a book.

I think it will come about to anyone who is enlightened, perhaps due to the energies channeling through the chakras.

This is probably a way to physically identify an enlightened person, but might not serve any other purpose other than that.