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Kavanaugh's victim was faking something

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I didn't used to always be honest and would front. That's one thing I've recently taken a vow to never do is be fake again, because it really does show on a person's face.

I can tell when somebody's being completely real. It's something that shows.

The woman that is testifying against kavanaugh is not being a hundred percent real.

I've seen her speech three times now.

I'm not saying she lied about him victimizing her.

I'm saying she's faking something.

It could be that she's just faking the emotions and trying too hard to cry, but either way she is not being completely genuine.

If she was in a soap opera, I would think " that's pathetic acting."

That said, it would be much worse if she was making the whole thing up. However, I'm not jumping to that conclusion.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Putting people on trial for how they emotionally react to a given situation isn't a good indication of their thoughts or actual feelings. Myself, it's not unusual for someone to think I'm entirely tuned out of my emotions and not emotional at all because I'm calm and reserved (outside to the world, anyways). Which sucks, but my brain doesn't process emotions like normal people. I'm more like a Vulcan when it comes to my emotions.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Also, it would be even less likely for her to start crying while reading something she wrote out.

When a person has been seriously wronged, they are traumatized, and when they know they are telling the truth, they have a photographic memory of the traumatic event , and it's going to come out passionately with no need to read off of a piece of paper.

I've watched people who were seriously traumatized in POW camps, and what they say comes from the heart and their tears are real, even 50 plus years after the event. they aren't reading off a piece of paper and they are completely genuine. They remember it like it was yesterday.

If it is something that has been traumatizing them for a lifetime, it's going to be repeatedly photographically playing in their head and nightmares for years.

No need to read off of a piece of paper.

But it could be that she's just faking the emotion. I just have strong suspicion she's not being genuine.

Being someone who frequently attends AA meetings and mental health meetings, and being someone who has known a lot of victims of sexual abuse from the psych wards , crisis centers, and treatment centers, I know when a person is being real. It's obvious!
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
While frat boy's foaming at the mouth was somehow more trustworthy....
I honestly do not see him being 100% genuine either. It may be that he does have a guilty conscience. I'm just not so sure he's guilty of this particular accusation.

However, he seems to also be fronting as well. I saw him putting forth emotions that I found to be disingenuous as well.
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
I suspect there's either a case of mistaken identity or false memory on behalf of Christine Blasey Ford in regards to Brett Kavanaugh. As I've stated in another thread about the unproven accusations against Judge Kavanaugh, It's very odd Christine Blasey went to a party consisting of 3 guys whom she hardly knew along with her friend, who didn't even bother to check up on her to make sure she could go to the bathroom unimpeded by these guys.. There were only 5 people at this alleged party, which Christine Blasey Ford doesn't know how she got there, where and when it happened, and nobody noticed these 2 guys were out of place there? Really, a drunk guy was strong enough to push her without a peep all the way from the bathroom to the bedroom? Christine Blasey's story has too many holes in it to be credible, imo. Yeah, something seemingly bad happened to her that really messed up her mind, but there's zero evidence Brett Kavanaugh actually had anything to do with that. Some lady's evidently fake memories shouldn't prevent Judge Kavanaugh from getting nominated to the US Supreme court.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Putting people on trial for how they emotionally react to a given situation isn't a good indication of their thoughts or actual feelings. Myself, it's not unusual for someone to think I'm entirely tuned out of my emotions and not emotional at all because I'm calm and reserved (outside to the world, anyways). Which sucks, but my brain doesn't process emotions like normal people. I'm more like a Vulcan when it comes to my emotions.
I would have been much more convinced if she did appear tuned out of her emotions, rather than obviously faking her emotions, or exaggerating them rather.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I'm just sick of fake people. I'm not saying she's speaking falsehood. I'm saying I see real people and fake people and know the difference, because I've been seeing this stuff all my life, and used to try to fake things too. When I went to college, I was into acting, took several acting classes, theatre workshops, and was in multiple plays.

I've been doing this for a while. I have dealt with the traumatized or criminals, con artists, drama Queens, and actors my whole life in and out of the jails, corrections, the psych wards, other mental institutions, the crisis centers, Pentecostal revivals, the "demon possessed", the hysterics, AA meetings, mental health meetings, and Beyond...

It's not that difficult to develop radar for such things when dealing with it as a normal occurance your whole life.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
How do you know she was faking it?

I've seen the raw and real emotions of people who are traumatized by something and have a photographic memory of it. I've been dealing with such people my entire life. My first psych ward was when I was 10 years old.

I have also dealt with a lot of fake people and con artists throughout my life.

It's something I can just tell. there was a lady at an AA meeting recently who I could tell had something terrible happen to her.

It was very subtle and she never said anything to indicate it. She sat behind me so it wasn't like I saw much of her. She never said anything throughout the meeting.

I was very concerned and so I sent her a text.

She said she wanted to scream at the top of her lungs.

I only saw her for a brief moment and right away knew there was something terribly wrong.

I have had all kinds of fake people and con artist come up with all sorts of excuses and fake emotions to try to get something from me.

When someone is genuinely going through something, I know almost instantly when I look at them.

If a smile is fake, I can tell.

When a smile is genuine, I can tell.

When someone is faking emotions, I can tell.

When someone is speaking about a traumatic event that happened to them, and they are being completely genuine and real, it shows.

I'm not saying she's lying, I'm saying she's faking something.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
How do you know she was faking it?
Have you ever had someone who was just pretending to enjoy your company, and pretending to genuinely like you as a person?

Wasn't it fairly obvious that they were faking it?

Haven't you learned how to just know such things just by listening to their voice and reading their face?
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Have you ever had someone who was just pretending to enjoy your company, and pretending to genuinely like you as a person?

Wasn't it fairly obvious that they were faking it?

Haven't you learned how to just know such things just by listening to their voice and reading their face?

I'm pretty obtuse sometimes, I can't even tell when my wife is faking an orgasm with me. :D
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I'm pretty obtuse sometimes, I can't even tell when my wife is faking an orgasm with me. :D
Back when I used to look at porn, there was a girl who you could tell had a repugnance for the guy she was with.

it was funny, because she was trying to act like she was getting pleasure from it and it was obvious she wasn't
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
As I said, it didn't look like Kavanaugh was being completely genuine either.

It seemed he was acting as well, possibly because he had a guilty conscience, but whether or not he was guilty of her accusations is something I would not dare judge one way or the other.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
There's next to nothing that I would consider myself good at. Judging whether a person is being real or fake is something I've become an expert at.

I'm not saying she's lying or that I'm some sort of a human lie detector.

I'm saying she's not being real. I'm an expert at reading such things because I've been in so many situations where a person needs to have those instincts.

I can tell a traumatized hurting person almost as soon as I look at them. It comes out effortlessly, and this woman was putting forth effort.

It shows in their eyes, it sometimes shows in the color of their face, it shows in their brow, their voice, it shows in things like clenching teeth and what not, and when I see a real person, showing their genuine colors and emotions, (with no effort or acting) it is something I appreciate tremendously.

When a person is truly traumatized it comes out a certain way. It doesn't come out in a series of phony whimpers. Even if they are detached from their emotions, the way they speak is still strong, forceful, and real, even if it is just subtle.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Anyway, I've explained my case thoroughly.

I have no need to say anything else.

Im confident without a doubt when I can tell if someone's being phony or genuine and real.

You can simply take my word for it or not.

You are entitled to your opinion. I respect that!
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Perhaps we all have a sense that we can assess others quite accurately, and I am no exception, but I have to disagree here and would side with Ford on what happened. He just comes across as someone who would say whatever was necessary to get him out of any situation whilst she doesn't. But then I am a little left-leaning and trust few from the right.
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
I didn't used to always be honest and would front. That's one thing I've recently taken a vow to never do is be fake again, because it really does show on a person's face.

I can tell when somebody's being completely real. It's something that shows.

The woman that is testifying against kavanaugh is not being a hundred percent real.

I've seen her speech three times now.

I'm not saying she lied about him victimizing her.

I'm saying she's faking something.

It could be that she's just faking the emotions and trying too hard to cry, but either way she is not being completely genuine.

If she was in a soap opera, I would think " that's pathetic acting."

That said, it would be much worse if she was making the whole thing up. However, I'm not jumping to that conclusion.
Ah yes, the "I just know" argument
 
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