Kids are Too Noisy

[Shadow Wolf]

Or to further it, would you complain of the smell if you moved next to a landfill? Or the noise and dust if you move next to a rock quarry? I live near an Air Force reserve base. Occasionally they are running drills, they have moved planes here to avoid letting them set in hurricanes, and sometimes there are sonic booms. But since I choose to live here, I knew that every once in awhile it will get noisy as a jet is passing overhead going in for a landing, and sometimes there will be a sound that sounds like a loud explosion and things will shake. It seems rather counter productive to complain about it though. I know it will happen, I realize it comes with the territory, so moving out here was sort of a consent that I acknowledge it will happen and there isn't anything I can do or should expect to be done about it.

 

[DallasApple]

That's because, personally, I think those adults who are complaining about schools and their children being too loud are only looking out for their own self-serving interests, similarly to a restaurant owner... but if the argument for a restaurant owner is that an owner has the right to throw anyone out of their establishment for noise control, than the property owners adjacent to the school have the right to complain about noise from a school that is clearly breaking the noise ordinance (if they weren't, then nothing would have happened - unless UK has some strange legal system.)

Going out to eat is OPTIONAL..And "eating" shouldnt cause that much noise..CHILDREN have to go to school..Or their parents will be IMPRISONED and they will be put in Juvenile jail..And PART of what (and a good thing need more of it) is CHILDREN running and playing..(and that is loud)

YOu dont go out to eat for 8 or 9 hours a day every day 5 days a week do you?

Dont even compare the two..

Love

Dallas

 

[DallasApple]

CHILDREN didnt even ask to be BORN..They want and need to run and play..That is as normal to them as eating food at a "resturant" for the fat pig adults..

What is the option?

People that would complain about "noise " of children playing in a playground(and at school mind you) to be quite frank make me sick..

Im going to vomit..

Dallas

 

[DallasApple]

I know that I wouldn't want to live next to a school - for that very reason. I know playgrounds will be noisy.

It does annoy me when people move somewhere, knowing what is in the area, or across the road and still then complain.

In the news the other week, a woman was complaining about the airport being too loud all day and night. She moved near an airport?! I mean come on..

NOOO!!! She should have the airport shut down honey..Because she doesnt want to have to hear that.

And my grandbaby says COME ON! LOL!!

Love

Dallas

 

[dust1n]

Or to further it, would you complain of the smell if you moved next to a landfill? Or the noise and dust if you move next to a rock quarry? I live near an Air Force reserve base. Occasionally they are running drills, they have moved planes here to avoid letting them set in hurricanes, and sometimes there are sonic booms.

If I was owning my property and the smell became worse over time, or the noise at the rock quarry became louder, or the frequency of timing of air drills and there was a law prohibiting that noise, of course I would complain.

If I am too loud at my house and break the law, the authorities would take the appropriate steps to lessen the noise; why should I not have the same rights of due process of law?

 

[dust1n]

Going out to eat is OPTIONAL..

I'm aware.

And "eating" shouldnt cause that much noise..CHILDREN have to go to school..Or their parents will be IMPRISONED and they will be put in Juvenile jail..And PART of what (and a good thing need more of it) is CHILDREN running and playing..(and that is loud)

Ok... and does putting up a noise fence or alternating breaks to lessen the noise of children playing below what the community has established as law not an option. Again.. this was never an issue of letting kids playing as loud as they want or restricting them from all play what-so-ever.

YOu dont go out to eat for 8 or 9 hours a day every day 5 days a week do you?

Dont even compare the two..

Love

Dallas

Fine, I won't. Still no reason that the local government should not properly address a community issue.

 

[dust1n]

If you can't see the logical consistency, no explanation on my part is going to help you see it - particularly, since you're obviously not interested in understanding any other perspectives on the issue.

Any explanation on your part is not helping me see the logical consistency not because I am not interested in understanding any other perspectives other than my own, but because you have yet to lay down any formal logic explaining the consistency.

 

[gnomon]

What do you think about this? I agree with how one parent put it: "It's ridiculous. Why move next to a school. The school has been there a long time."

Kids are kids.

If you don't like the noise than tough ####.

People often forget that the one recourse they always have is tough ####.

I'll never forget the customer who complained about a loud kid. He took the time to take the magazine he was reading the bookstore, unpaid for, and come complain to me about a kid making a lot of noise. When he complained to me I pointed out the kid had down syndrome and that the kid was communicating in the only method he knew how. Than I proceeded to tell the customer off. Great day.

Kids are kids. You don't like it.

**** off.

You own a home near a school? Move.

That is the definition of freedom. Imposing asinine conditions to control human behavior is not the definition of freedom. After having to deal with a special needs nephew for the last ten years the only message I have to people who are concerned about noisy kids is this............

My middle finger.

Imagine my middle finger long. And hard.

 

[dust1n]

Kids are kids.

If you don't like the noise than tough ####.

People often forget that the one recourse they always have is tough ####.

I'll never forget the customer who complained about a loud kid. He took the time to take the magazine he was reading the bookstore, unpaid for, and come complain to me about a kid making a lot of noise. When he complained to me I pointed out the kid had down syndrome and that the kid was communicating in the only method he knew how. Than I proceeded to tell the customer off. Great day.

Kids are kids. You don't like it.

**** off.

You own a home near a school? Move.

That is the definition of freedom. Imposing asinine conditions to control human behavior is not the definition of freedom. After having to deal with a special needs nephew for the last ten years the only message I have to people who are concerned about noisy kids is this............

My middle finger.

Imagine my middle finger long. And hard.

Does this opinion hold the same for restaurants?

 

[gnomon]

Does this opinion hold the same for restaurants?

Sure thing.

Any human being that is going to pay more money for food than they could produce at home to complain about kids is idiotic.

We were all screaming little brats at one time. Fools who think that going to a restaurant to pay $20 for a steak that could have cost them a quarter of that price from the grocery store to demean kids at a restaurant are only supporting their own idiocy.

We are not talking about parents who refuse to control their children. We are talking about kids being just what they are.

Deal with it or crawl in an ignorant little hole about life.

 

[dust1n]

Sure thing.

Any human being that is going to pay more money for food than they could produce at home to complain about kids is idiotic.

We were all screaming little brats at one time. Fools who think that going to a restaurant to pay $20 for a steak that could have cost them a quarter of that price from the grocery store to demean kids at a restaurant are only supporting their own idiocy.

We are not talking about parents who refuse to control their children. We are talking about kids being just what they are.

Deal with it or crawl in an ignorant little hole about life.

I can appreciate the consistency of your opinions.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Any human being that is going to pay more money for food than they could produce at home to complain about kids is idiotic.

Apparently you are unaware of this, but people go to restaurants to pay for the service, setting, and convenience, not just the food. Perhaps this ignorance on your part can excuse the idiocy of your opinion.

We were all screaming little brats at one time.

Apparently you are also unaware of this, but not all of us were screaming brats at one time. I was taught to be courteous and respectful, and I expect other people who take their children to public places to ensure that they're doing the same thing.

Fools who think that going to a restaurant to pay $20 for a steak that could have cost them a quarter of that price from the grocery store to demean kids at a restaurant are only supporting their own idiocy.

Expecting people to ensure that they and their children are courteous and respectful is hardly idiocy.

We are not talking about parents who refuse to control their children. We are talking about kids being just what they are.

Sounds like the kind of opinion held by a person who refuses to control their children.

Deal with it or crawl in an ignorant little hole about life.

No need to crawl in a hole - if people or their children are being obnoxiously loud or rude, it's easy enough to deal with it by complaining to the management.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Any explanation on your part is not helping me see the logical consistency not because I am not interested in understanding any other perspectives other than my own, but because you have yet to lay down any formal logic explaining the consistency.

Why waste my time?

 

[gnomon]

Apparently you are unaware of this, but people go to restaurants to pay for the service, setting, and convenience, not just the food. Perhaps this ignorance on your part can excuse the idiocy of your opinion.

I'm well aware of this. And despite what I pay for my meal I cannot get the staff to change the music nor get the party next to me from blabbing on their cell phones or blabbing about inane crap.

Apparently you are also unaware of this, but not all of us were screaming brats at one time. I was taught to be courteous and respectful, and I expect other people who take their children to public places to ensure that they're doing the same thing.

Who's talking about screaming brats. I'm talking about kids with Down Syndrome, Learning Disabilities, etc.

Maybe you just hate those kids and lack any sense of moral fiber or consideration.

Expecting people to ensure that they and their children are courteous and respectful is hardly idiocy.

Courteous yes. Never said anything against that. I'm talking about the fact that kids are kids and if you want to go to an adult only establishment than go to a whorehouse, bar or a strip club.

Sounds like the kind of opinion held by a person who refuses to control their children.

Sounds like an opinion of a tool.

Please, try again if you think you can take me.

I've only had five beers and two merlots.

I might be off my game.

No need to crawl in a hole - if people or their children are being obnoxiously loud or rude, it's easy enough to deal with it by complaining to the management.

.

No need to crawl in a hole because you already failed miserably.

But please feel free because I've got two more 16 oz., two merlots and tomorrow off to play around with.

I'm really bored.

Anybody else care to jump on this thread and explain why my nephew cannot enjoy a meal at a good steakhouse just like the rest of you ******** just because he is developmentally disabled.

P.S. In case if you have forgotten Kilgore. I'm an *******, too.:flirt:

I'm really bored and peckin' for it.

 

[ChristineES]

Whatever happened to ear plugs?

 

[MissAlice]

Whatever happened to ear plugs?

Or these....

Don’t Buy the Sennheiser PXC 250 Active Noise Canceling Headphones Read First! | Best Noise Canceling Headsets

 

[dust1n]

Why waste my time?

Well, I mean.. we are on an internet forum.

 

[Kathryn]

I'm well aware of this. And despite what I pay for my meal I cannot get the staff to change the music nor get the party next to me from blabbing on their cell phones or blabbing about inane crap.

You're obviously not going to the right restaurants. No, seriously, you can usually get the staff to turn DOWN music that is too loud. Or rather, I can. You should try it sometimes if you're somewhere where the music is too loud.

As for *** holes talking loudly on a cell phone - my husband can usually get them to quiet down pretty effectively.

Who's talking about screaming brats. I'm talking about kids with Down Syndrome, Learning Disabilities, etc.

I don't think people were talking about kids with special needs. We were discussing loud, out of control kids with oblivious, irresponsible parents in a restaurant environment that is not specifically aimed at entertaining kids.

Maybe you just hate those kids and lack any sense of moral fiber or consideration.

Maybe you've just had too much to drink and are bored.

Courteous yes. Never said anything against that. I'm talking about the fact that kids are kids and if you want to go to an adult only establishment than go to a whorehouse, bar or a strip club.

My husband and I have a favorite "date" restaurant. A typical meal there for us costs about $125. It's a rather formal environment - quiet, low lights, excellent service and the best martinis in town. Children are not barred from there but I can assure you that unruly, loud children are out of place there - and I believe that if parents cannot or will not control their little darlings, they need to LEAVE THEM AT HOME when they eat there, so that other patrons are not disturbed. Do you have a problem with that scenario?

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I'm jumping on this thread. I have a niece who has down's syndrome. Her parents still expect her to behave in public, and if they took her to the restaurant I was describing, they would expect her to act appropriately. If she began to disturb other patrons with loud or out of control behavior, they would take her out till she calmed down.

Also, if they knew that she simply couldn't be still or quiet enough for that particular environment, they wouldn't take her there. They would hire a baby sitter for the evening.

They are realistic and reasonable people.

A loud, restless, screaming child is not generally having a good time either - why put them OR the other patrons through that stress just so you can have a steak? Sounds very selfish to me.

 

[ChristineES]

Shoot, when I go a restaurant, the children don't usually scream or if they do it is short lived. I have more of a problem from someone talking on their cell phone so loud the whole place can hear them.
Kids should not have to tiptoe around the playground at a school just because a night worker decided to move next door to a school. And as I said earlier, what about ear plugs or those sound canceling headphones MissAlice suggested?

 

[DallasApple]

I dont even understand why we are talking about "resturants" we are talking about kids at SCHOOL playing on a playground making too much noise for the neighbors..

Love

Dallas