MdmSzdWhtGuy
Well-Known Member
Floods even happen in our day and age, and even in my own country! Imagine Hurricane Katrina happening to a primitive people, and then some religious leader gets up and says something along the lines of:
"The gods (God) have sent this tragedy because you are not sacrificing goats in the right way"
Actually some guy named Falwell said something very similar to this if I recall correctly.
Don't ya suppose that after generation after generation of campfire stories about the horrible event of Katrina wiping out lots of folks, that the campfire story tellers in an attempt to one up one another would embellish the story just a bit with the retelling? After all, who wants to hear Groc tell the same story that Thagnor just told last full moon?
A local flood killing many people and that story being retold over and over and embellished more and more to eventually become the Epic of Gilgamesh, and later the Noahic Flood makes all kinds of logical sense. An actual global flood which never happened and could not physically have ever happened, does not.
And back to the topic at hand, kinds has whatever meaning the reader ascribes to it. We are debating what one word in the middle of what is very obviously an ancient myth means. We might as well discuss the morphology of the Hydra of Ancient Greek/Roman mythology. What made Hercules so strong? What type of oars does the Boatman use to paddle across the River Styx?
There is no evidence that kinds means anything that we can point to in our modern knowledge of biology. No reason to think it means species, or family, or genus, or phyla, etc. . . . . as those concepts were not known to the ancient writers who were writing down these myths.
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"The gods (God) have sent this tragedy because you are not sacrificing goats in the right way"
Actually some guy named Falwell said something very similar to this if I recall correctly.
Don't ya suppose that after generation after generation of campfire stories about the horrible event of Katrina wiping out lots of folks, that the campfire story tellers in an attempt to one up one another would embellish the story just a bit with the retelling? After all, who wants to hear Groc tell the same story that Thagnor just told last full moon?
A local flood killing many people and that story being retold over and over and embellished more and more to eventually become the Epic of Gilgamesh, and later the Noahic Flood makes all kinds of logical sense. An actual global flood which never happened and could not physically have ever happened, does not.
And back to the topic at hand, kinds has whatever meaning the reader ascribes to it. We are debating what one word in the middle of what is very obviously an ancient myth means. We might as well discuss the morphology of the Hydra of Ancient Greek/Roman mythology. What made Hercules so strong? What type of oars does the Boatman use to paddle across the River Styx?
There is no evidence that kinds means anything that we can point to in our modern knowledge of biology. No reason to think it means species, or family, or genus, or phyla, etc. . . . . as those concepts were not known to the ancient writers who were writing down these myths.
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