Kirran's Religion-less-ness

[Vinayaka]

Just a general comment, Kirran, not directed at you. I've found some people are more attached to not having a label as those who do have labels. Very busy telling everyone all about it too. Attachment is funny thing that way. It reminds me of the essentially meaningless 'spiritual but not religious ' phrase.

Everyone on the boat.

 

[Kirran]

Just a general comment, Kirran, not directed at you. I've found some people are more attached to not having a label as those who do have labels. Very busy telling everyone all about it too. Attachment is funny thing that way. It reminds me of the essentially meaningless 'spiritual but not religious ' phrase.

Everyone on the boat.

Yeah, I see that too. That's why I've tried my best to check out of the whole thing altogether. But I felt some clarification was in order this time.

 

[wizanda]

Wow so much for sharing, how rude, not attached to anything; it was an ideological point to share, since spent years questioning these concepts.

Having conversations within years of religious chat, with me saying i had no label; it is often frightening to some, and they constantly try to reassign you.

The whole point is we can't remove the labels, we're identified by them in someway, and just to say people will still label us, even if we don't.

 

[Vinayaka]

Yeah, I see that too. That's why I've tried my best to check out of the whole thing altogether. But I felt some clarification was in order this time.

As you know, I'm fine with my 'label' . Since I'm not a talker and really am not into hours of explaining my beliefs, it eliminates a lot of that, unless of course the person either has no idea what it means, or has lots of misconceptions. It's really handy for situations with other religions, or proselytisers, because one simple phrase "I'm a Hindu' is sufficient to halt any preaching. It says 'I'm not intersted,' in a direct way.

 

[Kirran]

As you know, I'm fine with my 'label' . Since I'm not a talker and really am not into hours of explaining my beliefs, it eliminates a lot of that, unless of course the person either has no idea what it means, or has lots of misconceptions. It's really handy for situations with other religions, or proselytisers, because one simple phrase "I'm a Hindu' is sufficient to halt any preaching. It says 'I'm not intersted,' in a direct way.

Yeah, I can respect the term's value in that sense. It's easier in many ways. Maybe I'll use it again some time. It's not a big deal either way.

 

[Vinayaka]

It's not a big deal either way.

I rarely think of it any more either. There is too much to do to be concerned about how you look to everyone else. It just is what it is. You're from Wales, I'm Canadian, etc. So what.

 

[wizanda]

"I'm a Hindu' is sufficient to halt any preaching. It says 'I'm not intersted,' in a direct way.

As saying, no one gets your points unless they're a Hindu; many Muslims start thinking cow worshipers, and Christians also think polytheistic idolators...

It might suffice for brushing people off with a very limited answer; that the lazy can't be bothered to investigate, due to many seeing it as a none definitive.

There is too much to do to be concerned about how you look to everyone else.

Our ego is an inner/outer reflection with the outside world; so we put a label on that we're a waste of time theologically to debate, as our religion isn't bother by Laws in the eyes of some, as they have no clue what that word Hindu means in its religious contexts....

Eventually our character changes towards anyone coming from a different religious perspective, as internally our ego has noticed every time they've been rude because of our label, and eventually we actually become what they've projected onto our character.

Like i didn't trim my beard or hair for years in the UK the same as a Sadhu, the amount of people moving away, treating me as less than a normal human being, taking photos as they think you're a freak, eventually starts to affect us, regardless of how spiritually grounded we are.

Thus found we need to present something that people can understand, to not be incorrectly assigned; people make quick first impressions, and many are not wise enough to reassess.