Actually, it was FDR's brand of liberalism (which many on the right apparently hate now) which prevented the commies from taking over.
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Koch Brothers Attempt To Subvert Democracy Again
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Actually, it was FDR's brand of liberalism (which many on the right apparently hate now) which prevented the commies from taking over.
There are many allies in fighting the red threat.
FDR recognized that the best way to fight the red threat was to treat the masses better; give them better wages, lower prices, better opportunities, an elevated standard of living. Sometimes, it involved doing things which the right called "communistic," but I would say it's more in the interests of compromise in order to achieve a better outcome. That's something that those on the economic right (which even includes the majority of Democrats who supported Hillary) aren't willing to do, because they feel they don't have to. They feel that they've got theirs, so screw everyone else. There will eventually be consequences for that kind of intransigence.
Let's hope that the resulting compromises maximize liberty and the masses being satisfied.
It depends on what people care more about: luxury or liberty?
I hope the balance found is more in the liberty direction.
But liberty for who?
Without economic equity, there can be no liberty. Liberty can’t be just for those with means. Sure, it’s great for the aristocracy to have the liberty to fire people at will, pay them as little as possible, reduce social programs, limit environmental regulations, and what not. But the serfs might see it differently. Is it liberty to work for slave wages? Is it liberty to stay in a job for fear of losing health insurance? Is it liberty to breathe polluted air and drink poisoned water? How can you be free when you are forced to accept the only offer around, with little hope of attaining anything more? That’s the future I see libertarian / conservative economic liberty leading to.
Everyone.....duh!
"Equity" can mean very different things to different people.
I envision a system wherein educational, social & economic opportunity
are available to all. But this does not mean equality of outcome.
How'd you define it?
Libertarian & conservative goals aren't the same.
I've covered environmental regulation in detail before.
Suffice to say that I favor ensuring quality air, water, etc.
The reasons boil down to individual rights, ie, your right to
swing your arms ends where your neighbor's nose begins.
The Koch Bros are at it again.
This time talking of treason!
(For possibly supporting Democrats.)
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/29/cha...p-a-message-were-happy-to-back-democrats.html
Patrick T. Fallon | The Washington Post | Getty Images
Charles Koch
Leaders of the political network financed by billionaire industrialist Charles Koch called on their top donors to back them in a new initiative: Supporting Democratic lawmakers on issues the organization believe reflect its priorities.
During a seminar on Sunday titled "Transforming the network's effectiveness" at the Koch network's summit in Colorado Springs, Emily Seidel, the CEO of Americans for Prosperity, made it clear that working with Democrats will be on the table going forward — especially when it comes to reducing government spending and cutting back on financial regulations.
This time talking of treason!
(For possibly supporting Democrats.)
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/29/cha...p-a-message-were-happy-to-back-democrats.html
Patrick T. Fallon | The Washington Post | Getty Images
Charles Koch
Leaders of the political network financed by billionaire industrialist Charles Koch called on their top donors to back them in a new initiative: Supporting Democratic lawmakers on issues the organization believe reflect its priorities.
During a seminar on Sunday titled "Transforming the network's effectiveness" at the Koch network's summit in Colorado Springs, Emily Seidel, the CEO of Americans for Prosperity, made it clear that working with Democrats will be on the table going forward — especially when it comes to reducing government spending and cutting back on financial regulations.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Democrats cutting back on regulations ?
That'll be the day.
That'll be the day.
regulations are consumer protections
The Koch Bros are at it again.
This time talking of treason!
(For possibly supporting Democrats.)
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/29/cha...p-a-message-were-happy-to-back-democrats.html
Patrick T. Fallon | The Washington Post | Getty Images
Charles Koch
Leaders of the political network financed by billionaire industrialist Charles Koch called on their top donors to back them in a new initiative: Supporting Democratic lawmakers on issues the organization believe reflect its priorities.
During a seminar on Sunday titled "Transforming the network's effectiveness" at the Koch network's summit in Colorado Springs, Emily Seidel, the CEO of Americans for Prosperity, made it clear that working with Democrats will be on the table going forward — especially when it comes to reducing government spending and cutting back on financial regulations.
Perhaps they're thinking the Democrats might make some gains this coming election, so they're hedging their bets.
The Koch Bros. never hid their disdain for Trump. Doubtless for many sophisticated reasons.
This might be their way of signaling to Republicans that Koch support is conditional, and pressing Trump's agenda is costing them support.
Tom
Some are.
Many aren't.
That could very well be, however, listening to the Republicans currently running in the AZ primary for the Senate, they seem to be trying to outdo each other as to who is the biggest Trump supporter. I think the pressure is on for Republicans to either show themselves as supporters of Trump - or risk alienating a large chunk of their voting bloc.
tytlyf
Not Religious
Trump launches attack on 'globalist' Koch brothers after the GOP megadonors turn on the party
https://www.thisisinsider.com/trump...-after-they-turn-on-him-back-democrats-2018-7
https://www.thisisinsider.com/trump...-after-they-turn-on-him-back-democrats-2018-7
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The Koch juggernaut is opposing legal prohibitions against
teaching critical race theory.
Conservative Koch network disavows critical race theory bans
Excerpted....
DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) — As conservative political groups mobilize to ban in schools what they call critical race theory, one prominent backer of Republican causes and candidates is notably absent.
Leaders in the network built by the billionaire Koch family say they oppose government bans over teaching about race and history in schools. While they note they don’t agree with the ideas at the center of the fight, they argue the government bans, now enacted in 11 states, stifle debate essential to democracy.
“Using government to ban ideas, even those we disagree with, is also counter to core American principles — the principles that help drive social progress,” said Evan Feinberg, executive director of the Koch-affiliated Stand Together Foundation.
That position is in line with the network’s long-held libertarian streak. But it has sparked fresh charges of hypocrisy from the megadonor’s critics. After spending years pouring money into conservative groups, the Koch groups cannot distance themselves from the movement it helped build, they argue.
“They have this nice position they want to tout from a P.R. standpoint. But their money has gone to these groups that have the opposite effect on that agenda,” said Lisa Graves, board president for the liberal watchdog group Center for Media and Democracy.
The Koch organization first went public with its position last spring, as state lawmakers and conservative groups began passing legislation that bans from classrooms specific concepts, including the idea that racism is systemic in society and the U.S. legal system.
teaching critical race theory.
Conservative Koch network disavows critical race theory bans
Excerpted....
DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) — As conservative political groups mobilize to ban in schools what they call critical race theory, one prominent backer of Republican causes and candidates is notably absent.
Leaders in the network built by the billionaire Koch family say they oppose government bans over teaching about race and history in schools. While they note they don’t agree with the ideas at the center of the fight, they argue the government bans, now enacted in 11 states, stifle debate essential to democracy.
“Using government to ban ideas, even those we disagree with, is also counter to core American principles — the principles that help drive social progress,” said Evan Feinberg, executive director of the Koch-affiliated Stand Together Foundation.
That position is in line with the network’s long-held libertarian streak. But it has sparked fresh charges of hypocrisy from the megadonor’s critics. After spending years pouring money into conservative groups, the Koch groups cannot distance themselves from the movement it helped build, they argue.
“They have this nice position they want to tout from a P.R. standpoint. But their money has gone to these groups that have the opposite effect on that agenda,” said Lisa Graves, board president for the liberal watchdog group Center for Media and Democracy.
The Koch organization first went public with its position last spring, as state lawmakers and conservative groups began passing legislation that bans from classrooms specific concepts, including the idea that racism is systemic in society and the U.S. legal system.