MD
qualiaphile
YPG's Women's Wing (YPJ) Battles Islamic State in Syria's Kurdish Land | New Republic
Amazing, brave, strong beautiful women. Real heroes.
Amazing, brave, strong beautiful women. Real heroes.
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Kurdish Women militias vs ISIS
- Thread starter MD
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Good....people should stand up for themselves.
Poeticus
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Apple Sugar
Active Member
Imagine the shock when those ultra-right wing ISIS fighters see it's women taking their miserable lives.
Beautiful! I pray they have every success. And help from the U.S. government if possible. But with this president, not likely.
Beautiful! I pray they have every success. And help from the U.S. government if possible. But with this president, not likely.
Who seriously sends their women to battle?
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Perhaps they send themselves into battle?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
What's wrong with women going to combat? And I haven't got the impression they are being forced to. It's admirably they are holding their ground and fighting back. And apparently ISIS believes that if they are killed my a woman in battle, they don't go to Paradise. Not that they'd go to Paradise anyways, if the Quran is true, but they deserve to have the fear they have inflicted upon others to be inflicted on themselves.
I support these women and the Kurds.
I gotta say though that I think ISIS is behaving very plausibly based on the Quran. I'd go so far as to say that ISIS is what you get when you apply Occam's razor to the Quran.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Have you read the Quran? What ISIS is doing is not at all consistent with Islamic Law. They are just as Muslim as the Provisional IRA was Christian.
Poeticus
| abhyAvartin |
... wishful thinking at best, intellectual dishonesty at worst. Religious expression comes through a spectrum's range: followers can be kind and cuddly like the Teletubbies, or brutally ruthless like the IS. To detach extreme rigorism from religion itself would be to hinder the progressive interfaith dialogues that wish to exfoliate on the downsides of their religion, often keeping in mind that religious violence is a legitimate expression of one's religion but is incompatible, as per those that engage in such progressive dialogues, with today's world.
Pack up, and take your patriarchy with you!
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Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Hi Shadow Wolf,
Yes, I have read the Quran It's also my understanding that the leader of ISIS has an advanced degree (PhD) in Islamic studies. I understand that other Islamic scholars claim he's got it wrong, but they have to do some mental gymnastics to come to that conclusion.
As for your list, where did you get that list? I can say that my reading of the Quran did not leave me with the claims you make in your list!
Yes, I have read the Quran
It's also my understanding that the leader of ISIS has an advanced degree (PhD) in Islamic studies. I understand that other Islamic scholars claim he's got it wrong, but they have to do some mental gymnastics to come to that conclusion. As for your list, where did you get that list? I can say that my reading of the Quran did not leave me with the claims you make in your list!
Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
Most western forces have women soldiers sailors and pilots.
The uk only limits them from the SAS.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
The link I provided will bring you to an open letter that contains that list at the beginning. The site the image with that list that I provided comes from a site (which is where I found the link I provided) that may be too graphic for RF.Hi Shadow Wolf,
Yes, I have read the Quran
As for your list, where did you get that list? I can say that my reading of the Quran did not leave me with the claims you make in your list!
dust1n
Zindīq
Do you mean, besides America, and numerous examples from various places and times?
Thanks, I skimmed through the open letter. Did you notice how un-parsimonious it is? In other words, did you notice how complex, and twisty-turny the letter's explanations are? This is the problem that peaceful Islamic scholars have. They have to figure out how to take basically nasty scripture and re-paint it as peaceful.
On the other hand, you can go down the checklist and see how ISIS is - in many cases - following exactly what the Quran says or following exactly the examples that Muhammad demonstrated in his life. ISIS's take on Islam is - unfortunately for the world - an extremely defensible interpretation.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
It is translated, so it should be expected that it won't necessarily be an easy read.
And how does ISIS have a defensible interpretation when they have violated so many laws of Islam?
MD
qualiaphile
Why are kids from London killing Yezidis, Shadow Wolf? What persecution have they faced? Why are they enacting genocide on groups of people who have no power in Iraq? Why kill those that have done nothing to them?
There is only one answer to this, that Islam has violent parts to it. Let's not kid ourselves, as much as this is the U.S.'s fault, there are extremely violent parts to Islam which ISIS follows. Those of you defending them from this are impeding any honest conversations we can have on such topics.
Maybe if your people were slowly wiped out, you would sing a different tune.
There is only one answer to this, that Islam has violent parts to it. Let's not kid ourselves, as much as this is the U.S.'s fault, there are extremely violent parts to Islam which ISIS follows. Those of you defending them from this are impeding any honest conversations we can have on such topics.
Maybe if your people were slowly wiped out, you would sing a different tune.