Lab-grown meat -- how will that affect you personally?

[Rachel Rugelach]

"For the first time, U.S. regulators on Wednesday approved the sale of chicken made from animal cells, allowing two California companies to offer 'lab-grown' meat to the nation’s restaurant tables and eventually, supermarket shelves.

"The Agriculture Department gave the green light to Upside Foods and Good Meat, firms that had been racing to be the first in the U.S. to sell meat that doesn’t come from slaughtered animals — what’s now being referred to as 'cell-cultivated' or 'cultured' meat as it emerges from the laboratory and arrives on dinner plates."

Click here for entire article: US approves chicken made from cultivated cells, the nation's first 'lab-grown' meat

Aleph Farms of Israel had already successfully managed to create lab-grown meat and, at the beginning of this year, Israel's Chief Rabbinate had declared that the lab-grown steak is pareve -- which means that it's a "neutral" food that can be eaten by observant Jews with either meat or dairy dishes (observant Jews don't mix meat with dairy in our meals).

However (and last I heard), the chief executive of the Orthodox Union Kosher Division in New York, Rabbi Menachem Genack, has yet to decide on lab-grown meat. I believe that Rabbi Genack had a meeting in Israel, but I don't yet know what the outcome of that was.

For our non-Jews on this forum, especially our vegetarians and those who belong to religions that promote vegetarianism, how do you feel about lab-grown meat?

I'm personally delighted that there can be alternatives to animal slaughter while still enjoying the taste of meat. But is the enjoyment of the taste of meat still objectionable to some, despite the fact that animals are not being killed in order to have meat on one's dinner table?

 

[SalixIncendium]

While I'm thrilled there will be an alternative to animal slaughter, if it is more costly to consumers, I'm afraid most meat eaters will stay with the more cost-effective option, just as they have with the introduction of plant-based meats such as Impossible and Beyond.

I, as a vegetarian, am unlikely to partake, because whether it comes from a slaughtered animal or cells taken from a living animal, it's still meat.

 

[Jedster]

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I'm personally delighted that there can be alternatives to animal slaughter while still enjoying the taste of meat. But is the enjoyment of the taste of meat still objectionable to some, despite the fact that animals are not being killed in order to have meat on one's dinner table?

Yes, some people would object.
When I was an orthodox Jew, many of my friends started eating bacon-flavoured crisps and other foods. I remember thinking that they are coping out. ( I don't think that now).

 

[Rachel Rugelach]

While I'm thrilled there will be an alternative to animal slaughter, if it is more costly to consumers, I'm afraid most meat eaters will stay with the more cost-effective option, just as they have with the introduction of plant-based meats such as Impossible and Beyond.

I, as a vegetarian, am unlikely to partake, because whether it comes from a slaughtered animal or cells taken from a living animal, it's still meat.

I think that it's anticipated that the costs will drop as the consumer demand increases and companies subsequently compete for the market.

Yes, some people would object.
When I was an orthodox Jew, many of my friends started eating bacon-flavoured crisps and other foods. I remember thinking that they are coping out. ( I don't think that now).

I believe that even lab-grown pork will never be kosher, as the cells used for the lab-grown meat must come from a kosher animal in order for the product to be considered kosher.

 

[Revoltingest]

I'm ready to chow down!

 

[VoidCat]

I'd eat it. I dont limit my food choices. I am not a vegetarian but I've eaten nonmeat products that are supposed to mimick meat like impossible burger.

The main thing is limiting food choices for me isn't healthy. If I like the food I eat it. Ive wanted to go vegatarian but I know I can't. I have problems due to disability that prevent me from going vegatarian.

 

[Brickjectivity]

how do you feel about lab-grown meat?

I see the idea as very positive, however I will not compromise my health. I feel like chickens are badly treated, and I pay extra for 'cage free' chicken eggs. I am a picky eater, however. I won't eat from cans containing BPH and distill my own water. I hate the idea of eating anything containing soy products that are similar to estrogen or other hormones. If the cultured meat contains questions I won't make it a staple food. If I deem it safe I am willing to pay more for it, but I doubt it will be unquestionable meat and also doubt it will be within my expense range. I care a little about chickens but not enough to stop eating them if I have to compromise my own lifespan. We humans bred them to be our food. Its why they barely fly, but I still don't want them to live in squalid conditions.

I think if lab meat (definitely what people will be calling it or LM) is healthy to eat and if regulations improve treatment of chickens, then those two things will lead to price parity and eventual replacement of farmed chicken meat. Safe and healthy cultured meat is a fantastic idea.

 

[Rival]

This:

However, current techniques for lab-based meat production are still lacking and it is very challenging in meeting the criteria for meat analogues (Rout Srutee, 2021). Some studies do report that the production process and ingredients of certain lab-based meat are nutritionally lacking and do not mimic the consistency or exact taste of real meat (Ismail et al., 2020; Golkar-Narenji et al., 2022).

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666765722001508

There may be some vitamins, minerals and other nutritionally relevant components that are present in meat that may not be present in cultured meat. Examples included vitamin B1277, creatin(footnote 4), carnosine, vitamin D3, and iron(footnote 5), which are not created in muscle cells but are transported to the cells from elsewhere in the body or from the diet(footnote 6)(footnote 7).

Identification of hazards in meat products manufactured from cultured animal cells: Hazards

Nutritional hazards and contamination from components used in cell culturing.

www.food.gov.uk

May also affect pet food The Nutritional Challenges of Cell-Cultured Meat for Pet Food

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I'm ready to chow down!

It depends. Many meats develop flavour as muscles are used -- so I like chicken legs much, much more than breast meat.

 

[Revoltingest]

It depends. Many meats develop flavour as muscles are used -- so I like chicken legs much, much more than breast meat.

The solution....
Lab grown drumsticks.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

The solution....
Lab grown drumsticks.

Won't mean anything if they're not walking around.

 

[Revoltingest]

Won't mean anything if they're not walking around.

Don't underestimate technological progress.

 

[Debater Slayer]

"For the first time, U.S. regulators on Wednesday approved the sale of chicken made from animal cells, allowing two California companies to offer 'lab-grown' meat to the nation’s restaurant tables and eventually, supermarket shelves.

"The Agriculture Department gave the green light to Upside Foods and Good Meat, firms that had been racing to be the first in the U.S. to sell meat that doesn’t come from slaughtered animals — what’s now being referred to as 'cell-cultivated' or 'cultured' meat as it emerges from the laboratory and arrives on dinner plates."

Click here for entire article: US approves chicken made from cultivated cells, the nation's first 'lab-grown' meat

Aleph Farms of Israel had already successfully managed to create lab-grown meat and, at the beginning of this year, Israel's Chief Rabbinate had declared that the lab-grown steak is pareve -- which means that it's a "neutral" food that can be eaten by observant Jews with either meat or dairy dishes (observant Jews don't mix meat with dairy in our meals).

However (and last I heard), the chief executive of the Orthodox Union Kosher Division in New York, Rabbi Menachem Genack, has yet to decide on lab-grown meat. I believe that Rabbi Genack had a meeting in Israel, but I don't yet know what the outcome of that was.

For our non-Jews on this forum, especially our vegetarians and those who belong to religions that promote vegetarianism, how do you feel about lab-grown meat?

I'm personally delighted that there can be alternatives to animal slaughter while still enjoying the taste of meat. But is the enjoyment of the taste of meat still objectionable to some, despite the fact that animals are not being killed in order to have meat on one's dinner table?

If it's healthy, tasty, and not prohibitively expensive, I don't see any reason for myself not to eat it.

 

[Twilight Hue]

"For the first time, U.S. regulators on Wednesday approved the sale of chicken made from animal cells, allowing two California companies to offer 'lab-grown' meat to the nation’s restaurant tables and eventually, supermarket shelves.

"The Agriculture Department gave the green light to Upside Foods and Good Meat, firms that had been racing to be the first in the U.S. to sell meat that doesn’t come from slaughtered animals — what’s now being referred to as 'cell-cultivated' or 'cultured' meat as it emerges from the laboratory and arrives on dinner plates."

Click here for entire article: US approves chicken made from cultivated cells, the nation's first 'lab-grown' meat

Aleph Farms of Israel had already successfully managed to create lab-grown meat and, at the beginning of this year, Israel's Chief Rabbinate had declared that the lab-grown steak is pareve -- which means that it's a "neutral" food that can be eaten by observant Jews with either meat or dairy dishes (observant Jews don't mix meat with dairy in our meals).

However (and last I heard), the chief executive of the Orthodox Union Kosher Division in New York, Rabbi Menachem Genack, has yet to decide on lab-grown meat. I believe that Rabbi Genack had a meeting in Israel, but I don't yet know what the outcome of that was.

For our non-Jews on this forum, especially our vegetarians and those who belong to religions that promote vegetarianism, how do you feel about lab-grown meat?

I'm personally delighted that there can be alternatives to animal slaughter while still enjoying the taste of meat. But is the enjoyment of the taste of meat still objectionable to some, despite the fact that animals are not being killed in order to have meat on one's dinner table?

I cant wait to try it. Soon as I see it in the store.

Just hoping it won't be price prohibitive as @Debater Slayer mentioned that would discourage me buying it in the future.

It would be extremely nice to know the real meat I'm consuming wasn't from the expense of an animal dying in order to get it.

 

[Callisto]

As a concept, I'm not adverse to the idea of lab-grown meat. In practice, I won't be first in line to try it, there are too many questions and risks for my liking. Companies will need to be transparent but they won't, glossing over the process like antibiotics and chemical additives, potential health risks (e.g. viruses), and what culture media are used. E.g., a common medium is fetal bovine serum, and how it's gathered is not something vegetarians would be comfortable with. But that likely would be glossed over in marketing. Supposedly companies are endeavoring to move away from this but who knows what/how many other media will be used and what concerns may come with them.

• The use of fetal bovine serum: ethical or scientific problem?
• The Companies Removing Fetal Bovine Serum to Make Ethical, Slaughter-Free Meat

 

[Heyo]

If it's healthy, tasty, and not prohibitively expensive, I don't see any reason for myself not to eat it.

It shouldn't be more expensive then regular meat. Lab grown meat as well as plant based meat replacements should, in theory, be cheaper than regular meat as they are less resource intensive. But my guess is that it will take some time to overcome market forces and government subsidies.

 

[Quintessence]

I somehow doubt the local farmers that I get what little meat I buy from are going to switch to this type of production.

 

[Quagmire]

Don't underestimate technological progress.

Blah, I just got a picture in my mind of rows of disembodied chicken legs doing the can-can.

 

[Revoltingest]

Blah, I just got a picture in my mind of rows of disembodied chicken legs doing the can-can.

 

[Quagmire]

I'm a little skeptical as to how healthy or safe it would be, and to be honest it creeps me out a bit, but I would be willing to take point if it helps steer us away from factory farming (get it? "Steer"?)

I don't eat much meat anyway, but I'll admit it would be nice to be able to eat a nice big steak without feeling guilty about it.