Lab-grown meat -- how will that affect you personally?

[Nakosis]

"For the first time, U.S. regulators on Wednesday approved the sale of chicken made from animal cells, allowing two California companies to offer 'lab-grown' meat to the nation’s restaurant tables and eventually, supermarket shelves.

"The Agriculture Department gave the green light to Upside Foods and Good Meat, firms that had been racing to be the first in the U.S. to sell meat that doesn’t come from slaughtered animals — what’s now being referred to as 'cell-cultivated' or 'cultured' meat as it emerges from the laboratory and arrives on dinner plates."

Click here for entire article: US approves chicken made from cultivated cells, the nation's first 'lab-grown' meat

Aleph Farms of Israel had already successfully managed to create lab-grown meat and, at the beginning of this year, Israel's Chief Rabbinate had declared that the lab-grown steak is pareve -- which means that it's a "neutral" food that can be eaten by observant Jews with either meat or dairy dishes (observant Jews don't mix meat with dairy in our meals).

However (and last I heard), the chief executive of the Orthodox Union Kosher Division in New York, Rabbi Menachem Genack, has yet to decide on lab-grown meat. I believe that Rabbi Genack had a meeting in Israel, but I don't yet know what the outcome of that was.

For our non-Jews on this forum, especially our vegetarians and those who belong to religions that promote vegetarianism, how do you feel about lab-grown meat?

I'm personally delighted that there can be alternatives to animal slaughter while still enjoying the taste of meat. But is the enjoyment of the taste of meat still objectionable to some, despite the fact that animals are not being killed in order to have meat on one's dinner table?

I'm already a vegetarian but I don't see why folks how are fine with eating meant would switch unless they made it quite a bit cheaper.
If they could save money by switching.

Sure a few a few will see it as saving the planet and pat themselves on the back but if it is going to cost more I doubt many will switch.

 

[allfoak]

I do not eat meat.

 

[sayak83]

"For the first time, U.S. regulators on Wednesday approved the sale of chicken made from animal cells, allowing two California companies to offer 'lab-grown' meat to the nation’s restaurant tables and eventually, supermarket shelves.

"The Agriculture Department gave the green light to Upside Foods and Good Meat, firms that had been racing to be the first in the U.S. to sell meat that doesn’t come from slaughtered animals — what’s now being referred to as 'cell-cultivated' or 'cultured' meat as it emerges from the laboratory and arrives on dinner plates."

Click here for entire article: US approves chicken made from cultivated cells, the nation's first 'lab-grown' meat

Aleph Farms of Israel had already successfully managed to create lab-grown meat and, at the beginning of this year, Israel's Chief Rabbinate had declared that the lab-grown steak is pareve -- which means that it's a "neutral" food that can be eaten by observant Jews with either meat or dairy dishes (observant Jews don't mix meat with dairy in our meals).

However (and last I heard), the chief executive of the Orthodox Union Kosher Division in New York, Rabbi Menachem Genack, has yet to decide on lab-grown meat. I believe that Rabbi Genack had a meeting in Israel, but I don't yet know what the outcome of that was.

For our non-Jews on this forum, especially our vegetarians and those who belong to religions that promote vegetarianism, how do you feel about lab-grown meat?

I'm personally delighted that there can be alternatives to animal slaughter while still enjoying the taste of meat. But is the enjoyment of the taste of meat still objectionable to some, despite the fact that animals are not being killed in order to have meat on one's dinner table?

As the technology matures and the cost of production falls and quality improves...I believe this will be the future and we will have a time in a few decades when meat eating will not require killing of any animal whatsoever.
I will happily switch to it.

 

[We Never Know]

As the technology matures and the cost of production falls and quality improves...I believe this will be the future and we will have a time in a few decades when meat eating will not require killing of any animal whatsoever.
I will happily switch to it.

There will always be a need for hunting(killing for meat)to avoid over population. Deer hunters kill around 6 million+ white-tailed deer yearly.
Imagine 5 years with no hunting. That would be 30 million more deer, (probably closer to 45 million with breeding) destroying crop, causing car accidents, etc.

 

[Heyo]

There will always be a need for hunting(killing for meat)to avoid over population. Deer hunters kill around 6 million+ white-tailed deer yearly.
Imagine 5 years with no hunting. That would be 30 million more deer, (probably closer to 45 million with breeding) destroying crop, causing car accidents, etc.

Yes. Also, farmers have an overproduction of livestock which usually ends up as meat.
I, and most people, have less ethical problems with such meat. The real problem is the meat industry. Animals having very little space and other bad living conditions. Through them being kept so close together the risk of infections rises, which is then countered by gratuitous use of antibiotics.
But with just wild and small farm raised meat the demand can't be satisfied.

 

[Viker]

As long as it's safe, good and reasonably priced, I will do it.

 

[sayak83]

There will always be a need for hunting(killing for meat)to avoid over population. Deer hunters kill around 6 million+ white-tailed deer yearly.
Imagine 5 years with no hunting. That would be 30 million more deer, (probably closer to 45 million with breeding) destroying crop, causing car accidents, etc.

Maybe introduce wolves and mountain lions?

 

[SDavis]

"For the first time, U.S. regulators on Wednesday approved the sale of chicken made from animal cells, allowing two California companies to offer 'lab-grown' meat to the nation’s restaurant tables and eventually, supermarket shelves.

"The Agriculture Department gave the green light to Upside Foods and Good Meat, firms that had been racing to be the first in the U.S. to sell meat that doesn’t come from slaughtered animals — what’s now being referred to as 'cell-cultivated' or 'cultured' meat as it emerges from the laboratory and arrives on dinner plates."

Click here for entire article: US approves chicken made from cultivated cells, the nation's first 'lab-grown' meat

Aleph Farms of Israel had already successfully managed to create lab-grown meat and, at the beginning of this year, Israel's Chief Rabbinate had declared that the lab-grown steak is pareve -- which means that it's a "neutral" food that can be eaten by observant Jews with either meat or dairy dishes (observant Jews don't mix meat with dairy in our meals).

However (and last I heard), the chief executive of the Orthodox Union Kosher Division in New York, Rabbi Menachem Genack, has yet to decide on lab-grown meat. I believe that Rabbi Genack had a meeting in Israel, but I don't yet know what the outcome of that was.

For our non-Jews on this forum, especially our vegetarians and those who belong to religions that promote vegetarianism, how do you feel about lab-grown meat?

I'm personally delighted that there can be alternatives to animal slaughter while still enjoying the taste of meat. But is the enjoyment of the taste of meat still objectionable to some, despite the fact that animals are not being killed in order to have meat on one's dinner table?

I was raised and witnessed the slaughter of animals put meat on the table.

Since after the flood when God allowed man kind to eat meat, animals have been the source of meat.

I am from a time when an animal was slaughtered for meat and all parts of the animal was used - even the chicken feathers were used for pillows - chicken feet were eaten, the insides given to the pets.

Also from a Time when there was a totally different taste, natural taste to meats. The meats being served these days are not even close to what meats tasted like 50 years ago. Lab grown meats with artificial flavoring - that would probably be a good way to turn to me back into a vegetarian as God intended in the first place. Like turning oil into oleo and giving it a buttery flavor _ it's still oil.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I'm never eating it.

 

[Ella S.]

It shouldn't affect my life. Meat is not the healthiest source of protein to begin with and it makes me sick when I ingest it after abstaining for a long enough time, so even if it was grown in a lab there are compelling enough reasons for me to maintain a plant-based diet.

On top of that, as my gut bacteria get used to a plant-based diet, meat starts to taste worse; it begins to taste like "dead animal" rather than the "juicy meat" I remember, which only adds to the queasiness.

Personally, I don't think we should be trying to replace meat products with impossible meat, lab-grown meat, liquid smoke, and all of the other heavily processed concoctions sold as "vegan alternatives." Mushrooms, tomatoes, and olives are sources of juicy, savory flavors and, while they taste nothing like meat, they're just as delicious, in my opinion. This is even more so when meat starts tasting gross and I gain a deeper appetite for plant-based food. I would honestly choose to eat a mushroom veggie burger over a beef burger based on taste alone at this point.

I know that's heresy to those people that really love the taste of meat, but it's something I'm more than happy to live without even before we get into conversations about personal health, the environment, or animal rights.

 

[sun rise]

This:

However, current techniques for lab-based meat production are still lacking and it is very challenging in meeting the criteria for meat analogues (Rout Srutee, 2021). Some studies do report that the production process and ingredients of certain lab-based meat are nutritionally lacking and do not mimic the consistency or exact taste of real meat (Ismail et al., 2020; Golkar-Narenji et al., 2022).

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666765722001508

There may be some vitamins, minerals and other nutritionally relevant components that are present in meat that may not be present in cultured meat. Examples included vitamin B1277, creatin(footnote 4), carnosine, vitamin D3, and iron(footnote 5), which are not created in muscle cells but are transported to the cells from elsewhere in the body or from the diet(footnote 6)(footnote 7).

Identification of hazards in meat products manufactured from cultured animal cells: Hazards

Nutritional hazards and contamination from components used in cell culturing.

www.food.gov.uk

May also affect pet food The Nutritional Challenges of Cell-Cultured Meat for Pet Food

Bingo I have nothing against cultured meat per se, but hyper-processed "food" is unhealthy. And even if the product had all the current recognized nutrients, I'd wonder about what we don't know.

As to different taste, catsup cures all ills.

 

[Twilight Hue]

There will always be a need for hunting(killing for meat)to avoid over population. Deer hunters kill around 6 million+ white-tailed deer yearly.
Imagine 5 years with no hunting. That would be 30 million more deer, (probably closer to 45 million with breeding) destroying crop, causing car accidents, etc.

I'd rather see controlled hunting than increased predators roaming around the neighborhood.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Bingo I have nothing against cultured meat per se, but hyper-processed "food" is unhealthy. And even if the product had all the current recognized nutrients, I'd wonder about what we don't know.

As to different taste, catsup cures all ills.

It's not processed. Cells will grow the same way as it does in the animal.

 

[SalixIncendium]

There will always be a need for hunting(killing for meat)to avoid over population. Deer hunters kill around 6 million+ white-tailed deer yearly.
Imagine 5 years with no hunting. That would be 30 million more deer, (probably closer to 45 million with breeding) destroying crop, causing car accidents, etc.

What is being done to avoid human overpopulation?

 

[SalixIncendium]

Maybe introduce wolves and mountain lions?

Re-introduce, perhaps. Humans have run them off from their natural habitat or killed them. At one time, it was wolves and mountain lions (and coyotes) that aided in controlling deer population.

The reason humans need to hunt deer to control population is because humans have screwed up the equilibrium that maintained it to begin with.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

As to different taste, catsup cures all ills.

^ that is SO wrong ...

 

[Estro Felino]

There's always the vegetarian option.

 

[SalixIncendium]

There's always the vegetarian option.

Always? Dangit! And here I thought I was in with some special limited time offer.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

If it helps restore the planet, feed the hungry, and counter the unethical treatment of animals, I'm all for it.

 

[Brickjectivity]

The reason humans need to hunt deer to control population is because humans have screwed up the equilibrium that maintained it to begin with.

That is true, but it is only part of the picture. Also if the govco would let us sell deer meat then it would really be good for poor people. As it is its simply forbidden, and that's not natural either. That's another equilibrium. So we favor wolves over poor people. We grant that labs may sell meat but won't let hunters sell it.