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Landslide? Trump Won With Only 1.6% Margin Among Voters

Wirey

Wirey

Fartist
Clizby Wampuscat said:
This is the left's talking points but it is not the entire truth. But this is why you lost, the left did not try to understand what Trump voters were about. They just insulted us. So 1.6% or 1 vote, I don't care. Trump won. All this talk about the popular vote is just for losers, it doesn't matter in presidential elections. If you want it to matter then change the constitution.
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You have to admit, he makes a point. Trump won. The end.

Unless Biden has something planned for Jan 6th. Kidding!
 
Wirey

Wirey

Fartist
Clizby Wampuscat

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
Revoltingest said:
I dislike the compact independently of such a result.
It's highly vulnerable to corruption, ie, a state
welching on the agreement.
Counting individual votes to count the popular
vote is the least vulnerable.
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I wonder if it is constitutional. They are enacting laws to subvert the constitution. I think there is an argument there. They should be working to change the constitution instead.
 
tytlyf

tytlyf

Not Religious
Clizby Wampuscat said:
This is the left's talking points but it is not the entire truth. But this is why you lost, the left did not try to understand what Trump voters were about.
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People voted for lower prices. Trump "fixing it" was a ruse that vulnerable people ate up.
It's too late for them when they realize prices aren't going to be lower. If anything, they'll go up quicker.
We understand all we need to know about Trump voters. You like being lied to.
They're just lazy thinkers. They chose that route.
 
Alien826

Alien826

No religious beliefs
Clizby Wampuscat said:
If the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact was in affect the EV's would have been 489 to 49 and looked like this:
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I haven't bothered to check the numbers, but that's irrelevant. The point is that Trump (would have) won the national popular vote and thus gets to be elected. That's the whole point. The Compact (if it gets created) will adjust the EC votes to give the Presidency to who wins the popular vote total. If you consider that under this system states agree to give all their votes to the winner, it's not surprising that you see these large discrepancy in numbers. If Harris had won the popular vote you would see the same totals in reverse.

By the way, the Compact kicks in when enough states have passed laws (conditionally) to implement it with a total of 270+ EC votes between them. It doesn't have to be all states. Just enough to win.
Revoltingest said:
I dislike the compact independently of such a result.
It's highly vulnerable to corruption, ie, a state
welching on the agreement.
Counting individual votes to count the popular
vote is the least vulnerable.
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But to get to that we have to change the constitution, which is very much more difficult. The proposed system involves laws passed by the participating states and if a state welched on the deal they could be challenged in the courts.

Clizby Wampuscat said:
I wonder if it is constitutional. They are enacting laws to subvert the constitution. I think there is an argument there. They should be working to change the constitution instead.
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That would have to be tested. The Constitution does give the states the right to run elections (somewhat) any way they want. And states already force the electors to vote the way they are told. And two states already allocate electors on a "split" basis, which incidentally would be another way to go about it if all the states did it. My point being that the Constitution gives the states wide powers in this area. It would certainly be challenged though.
 
Watchmen

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
tytlyf said:
People voted for lower prices. Trump "fixing it" was a ruse that vulnerable people ate up.
It's too late for them when they realize prices aren't going to be lower. If anything, they'll go up quicker.
We understand all we need to know about Trump voters. You like being lied to.
They're just lazy thinkers. They chose that route.
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But what if prices do go down? I think the Left will attribute that to Biden's economics and claim Trump is just taking the credit, right?
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Foxfyre said:
Which is why the Founders with great wisdom gave us the electoral college to ensure all Americans would have at least some say in presidential elections rather than just a very few very large population centers having all the say. Los Angeles County alone has more population than the total population of any of 40 U.S. states. And because bright blue California is still counting votes weeks after the election, it is a safe bet most of those votes will be Democrat votes. That does not change the fact the most of the states are red.

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The electoral college does the opposite of giving everyone a voice. In my state I was a Republican for most of my life and I knew that I did not have a voice in the election of the President. My state was always blue. So even if it was a close race nationally my vote would never have had made a difference. The only way to give everyone a voice is to get rid of the electoral college.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Watchmen said:
But what if prices do go down? I think the Left will attribute that to Biden's economics and claim Trump is just taking the credit, right?
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I do not see how prices could go down. If anything Trump has only proposed raising prices. I did not believe the Democrats when they said that they would lower prices either. Prices dropping is usually a sign of a very bad economy and we do not want that. In fact at the start of the Covid pandemic when lockdowns first began there was negative inflation for a short period of time due to the negative way the economy was affected.
 
tytlyf

tytlyf

Not Religious
Watchmen said:
But what if prices do go down? I think the Left will attribute that to Biden's economics and claim Trump is just taking the credit, right?
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There's no reason why the prices would go down.
And if they magically did, I'd assume people would credit the Inflation Reduction Act.
 
stvdv

stvdv

Veteran Member
Revoltingest said:
She couldn't lead a cult if if it were tied to the bumper of her Lexus.

You don't get it.
She's uninspiring.
She was a default candidate.
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I think Kamala Harris is as innocent as a baby as compared to Trump. I saw that Fox News tried to find dirt on Kamala, and the best they could find was "Kamala wearing earplugs". Fox News making that their main story proves how low Fox News is, and how innocent Kamala

Of course that does imply she can be easily manipulated by those who really call the shots in America, obviously not the President. Kamala was known to be indecisive, quite the opposite of what Trump shows
 
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