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Large Stone Boxes in Egypt

Onyx

Active Member
Premium Member
Serapeum of Saqqara - Wikipedia

What do you make of these? Many claim the Ancient Egyptians lacked the technology to shape these huge boxes out of solid blocks of granite, let alone move them due to their extreme weight.

How do you think these may have been created to such precision given the challenges of working with such a hard stone?

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Neo Deist

Th.D. & D.Div. h.c.
There are many things from around the world that can't be explained, given the primitive tools those cultures had to work with.

Pumapunku is an example with the H blocks. The shapes are perfectly cut and angled, as if done by a laser. The blocks are dated back 1,500 years. The largest stone there weighs in over 131 metric tons. The walls are made without mortar, with each block being precisely cut to fit like an interlocking jigsaw puzzle.
 
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beenherebeforeagain

Rogue Animist
Premium Member
There are many things from around the world that can't be explained, given the primitive tools those cultures had to work with.

Pumapunku is an example with the H blocks. The shapes are perfectly cut and angled, as if done by a laser. The blocks are dated back 1,500 years. The largest stone there weights in over 131 metric tons. The walls are made without mortar, with each block being precisely cut to fit like an interlocking jigsaw puzzle.
You know, I've heard and seen this claim over and over since the early 1970s, but I have never seen an actual peer-reviewed study that reports the measurement and analysis of the measurements, thus supporting the assertion.

I should probably look that up sometime...
 

Shad

Veteran Member
There are many things from around the world that can't be explained, given the primitive tools those cultures had to work with.

Pumapunku is an example with the H blocks. The shapes are perfectly cut and angled, as if done by a laser. The blocks are dated back 1,500 years. The largest stone there weighs in over 131 metric tons. The walls are made without mortar, with each block being precisely cut to fit like an interlocking jigsaw puzzle.

There is an actually model for how they did this. So much for unexplained.... You are repeating Ancient Aliens nonsense as the blocks are not precisely cut. You should reference Jean Pierre Protzen, the leading expert, as he explained this decades ago.
 

Neo Deist

Th.D. & D.Div. h.c.
There is an actually model for how they did this. So much for unexplained.... You are repeating Ancient Aliens nonsense as the blocks are not precisely cut. You should reference Jean Pierre Protzen, the leading expert, as he explained this decades ago.

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Milton Platt

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Serapeum of Saqqara - Wikipedia

What do you make of these? Many claim the Ancient Egyptians lacked the technology to shape these huge boxes out of solid blocks of granite, let alone move them due to their extreme weight.

How do you think these may have been created to such precision given the challenges of working with such a hard stone?

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It is obvious from the picture that they could create them......
 

Onyx

Active Member
Premium Member
It is obvious from the picture that they could create them......

Right on, I don't doubt that the Egyptians made these things.

But the question is how. What tools did they use? Even if you could carve boxes like that out of solid blocks of granite, how do you move 50-80 ton objects into their final positions? The whole process seems rather intractable for the era, yet they figured out how to accomplish the task.
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
Right on, I don't doubt that the Egyptians made these things.

But the question is how. What tools did they use? Even if you could carve boxes like that out of solid blocks of granite, how do you move 50-80 ton objects into their final positions? The whole process seems rather intractable for the era, yet they figured out how to accomplish the task.

It has been proven by demonstration that the huge blocks could be moved with man-power along and up ramps. As to the carving, I don't know what tools were used, but maybe obsidian or something like that, or just incessant chipping with a rock. I'm sure the answer can probably be Googled up. Remember, the Egyptians had access to thousands of slaves.....
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
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I'm not sure how, but I'm sure insane amounts of time was required. I always have to remind myself that besides sex and drinking they basically had nothing to do back then, no distractions. I think this is key to how the ancient built things we can't imagine, because we can't imagine that much free time.
 

Onyx

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Premium Member
It has been proven by demonstration that the huge blocks could be moved with man-power along and up ramps.

The weird thing about these is that they sit back into small spaces, no room in the hallways for the hundreds of people required to push 70+ tons. But who knows.

I'm not sure how, but I'm sure insane amounts of time was required. I always have to remind myself that besides sex and drinking they basically had nothing to do back then, no distractions. I think this is key to how the ancient built things we can't imagine, because we can't imagine that much free time.

Lol :). I wish I could go back in time and see how they accomplished it all.
 

Neo Deist

Th.D. & D.Div. h.c.
Remember, the Egyptians had access to thousands of slaves.....

It wasn't the Hebrews. The time frames don't add up.

As a matter of fact, thanks to archaeology and discovering tombs near the pyramids, it is now the consensus that paid workers, not slaves, built the pyramids. They were buried near the pyramids in those tombs, which was considered an honor. Slaves would not be given such an honor. There were even jars of beer and bread found in those tombs, for the workers in the afterlife.
 

ADigitalArtist

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Staff member
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This reminds me of the man who built a stone henge himself with no modern tools. It can be done:
If one man can do it by himself with simple lever/fulcrum tools, imagine what an empire can do.
 

beenherebeforeagain

Rogue Animist
Premium Member
I've seen a lot of TV documentaries where modern engineers and scientists have tested building and using ancient technologies, including moving massive stone blocks, smoothing the edges, and so on. Most of it is not that big of a mystery anymore; often, for example, in Egyptian inscriptions, there are pictures and even descriptions of how various tasks were accomplished...there's even evidence that they used something resembling a giant parachute to help move some objects. I haven't read a lot of the peer-reviewed materials on this, but I wouldn't be surprised about a lot of the solutions the ancients came up with. I think it's a good theory that they used (as depicted in their murals) a giant copper wheel and that nearly endless supply of sand to polish their obelisks and suchlike...
 
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