Law of Reciprocity and Love

[JustGeorge]

28 “What do you think? There was a man who had two sons. He went to the first and said, ‘Son, go and work today in the vineyard.’

29 “‘I will not,’ he answered, but later he changed his mind and went.

30 “Then the father went to the other son and said the same thing. He answered, ‘I will, sir,’ but he did not go.

31 “Which of the two did what his father wanted?”

sometimes an act is simply for the greater good and not so much for the individual. i'm sure the parent of a murdered child who has forgiven the murderer doesn't feel closer to the murderer. but recognizes that hate isn't going to fix the situation. it's already bad enough. now whether the murderer learns anything from their selfish action is another thing.

forgiveness is relieving oneself of that baggage of hatred that could eventually crush self.

self cannot server to masters. love or hate but the two don't mix. we know that everyone wants to be loved but not everyone recognizes that they aren't loving

I don't think its always a choice, though.

I remember being young and wanting to forgive someone, saying I had. But I realized I was lying both to him and myself... I found I couldn't make myself.

 

[Fool]

I don't think its always a choice, though.

I remember being young and wanting to forgive someone, saying I had. But I realized I was lying both to him and myself... I found I couldn't make myself.

the forgiveness releases the victim from the attachment to that hatred of other as self. it doesn't absolve them of the offense. also doesn't mean you should trust them either.

 

[JustGeorge]

the forgiveness releases the attachment to that hatred of other for self. it doesn't absolve them of the offense. also doesn't mean you should trust them either.

I wasn't able to release that, even though I wanted to.

 

[Fool]

I wasn't able to release that, even though I wanted to.

understood. i meditated on mine. understood if I focused on being vindictive, or being a victim and seek retribution that my focus would be on destruction and not creativity. so i took the circumstances and tried to learn something from it.

forgiveness of self is also a release. especially from errors we committed in the past due to lack of knowledge and understanding. however when it's willful disobedience that can be huge thing to struggle with. karma insures the lesson will eventually be met in self. who would, or who could willfully separate themselves from love for eternity?

 

[JustGeorge]

understood. i meditated on mine. understood if I focused on being vindictive, or being victim and seek retribution that my focus would be on destruction and not creativity. so i took the circumstances and tried to learn something from it.

Sounds like you made a beautiful experience of it.

forgiveness of self is also a release. especially from errors we committed in the past due to lack of knowledge and understanding. however when it's willful disobedience that can be huge thing to struggle with. karma insures the lesson will eventually be met in self. who would, or who could willfully separate themselves from love for eternity?

Self forgiveness has been a big challenge for me, but I'm working on it.

 

[Fool]

Sounds like you made a beautiful experience of it.

Self forgiveness has been a big challenge for me, but I'm working on it.

to love is a power that binds/yokes two as one, as friends. i suspect you have a few. love makes us wholesome. to love other as self is the ideal. that doesn't exclude self but is all inclusive

give yourself some credit for what some take for granted. because they enter stage left and exit stage right sometimes to soon

with love all things are possible.

 

[Fool]

@JustGeorge

when ma'at weighs the feather against the heart, the understanding is a relationship between love and light. otherwise darkness

love is upliftting

 

[JustGeorge]

@JustGeorge

when ma'at weighs the feather against the heart, the understanding is a relationship between love and light. otherwise darkness

love is upliftting

Is love that hurts still love?

For example, loving someone who is ill, or self destructing.

It may bring darkness.

 

[Fool]

Is love that hurts still love?

For example, loving someone who is ill, or self destructing.

It may bring darkness.

Sorry,

i don't quite understand the question exactly

but the best i can relate is that the loss of a loved one is heart-breaking. whether in death or life to someone, or something else. Like drugs, or outgrowing the relationship.

it's almost as if we're losing part of ourselves.

“Those we love don’t go away, they walk beside us every day…unseen, unheard, but always near, still loved, still missed, and very dear.” – Unknown​

 

[JustGeorge]

Sorry,

i don't quite understand the question exactly

I really liked the example you gave vvith Ma'at, but I'm not finding all love to be 'light'.

but the best i can relate is that the loss of a loved one is heart-breaking. whether in death or life to someone, or something else. Like drugs, or outgrowing the relationship.

it's almost as if we're losing part of ourselves.

Yeah, sometimes.

“Those we love don’t go away, they walk beside us every day…unseen, unheard, but always near, still loved, still missed, and very dear.” – Unknown​

Sometimes if you're lucky, they're not fully unseen/unheard!

 

[Fool]

I really liked the example you gave vvith Ma'at, but I'm not finding all love to be 'light'.


Yeah, sometimes.

Sometimes if you're lucky, they're not fully unseen/unheard!

with love comes understanding. that is the light i'm speaking of.

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an inner light.

Light as a metaphor (for love and understanding)

This is the season in which (and the night on which) one remembers the light. Whether it is in the west [where one lights a lamp within a hollowed-out pumpkin to celebrate Halloween], or in the east [where one lights earthen lamps, or other lights, to brighten up the house, and its surroundings, to

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[Ebionite]

Love is in the heart, not in the mind

In Hebrew idiom the heart is the seat of consciousness as well as the seat of the emotions.

 

[osgart]

In Hebrew idiom the heart is the seat of consciousness as well as the seat of the emotions.

All I'm saying is that love cannot be enforced nor commanded. In reality it never works that way.

As a law love cannot be enforced.

 

[Ebionite]

All I'm saying is that love cannot be enforced nor commanded. In reality it never works that way.

As a law love cannot be enforced.

Perhaps the command was meant to be understood within the context of reciprocity.

 

[osgart]

Perhaps the command was meant to be understood within the context of reciprocity.

People do things for mutual advantage by nature. Why command reciprocity?

Giving back to society is what the tax system is supposed to do. Love is free and freely given.

 

[Ebionite]

People do things for mutual advantage by nature. Why command reciprocity?

It's not commanded, it's inferred.

Giving back to society is what the tax system is supposed to do. Love is free and freely given.

Tax was originally a tribute paid for protection.