LDS letter on same-sex marriage

[Magic Man]

and this is why i am going to just hit the ignore button because of you're bafooning around not knowing about anything you're talking about. you're on the same level as Fish-Hunter in my book.

What? Use ignore all you want, but this is a little ridiculous. What is it that she is ignorant of? She used a very relevant, valid analogy. I'm sorry you don't like the implications, but they are true. It shows the ridiculousness of your statement. I can understand not wanting to see that, but it's good to face the truth sometimes.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

because same sex marriage is not righteous.

It could be if God made it so, couldn't it? Or are you trying to put limits on God?

 

[stacey bo bacey]

We tolerate them, we aren't telling them what to do, just letting them know what they can't do.

Wow. You must live a sad existence. Why can't you learn to accept and love people different than you as opposed to just tolerating them?

 

[Storm]

Oh, please don't get him started about how he loves us so much he wants to help us overcome the terrible trial of being different from him....

 

[Autodidact]

We tolerate them, we aren't telling them what to do, just letting them know what they can't do.

Actually, let us tell you what we can do: get married. In California, Massachusetts, and Canada.

 

[Autodidact]

and this is why i am going to just hit the ignore button because of you're bafooning around not knowing about anything you're talking about. you're on the same level as Fish-Hunter in my book.

Be my guest. Of course, I haven't put you on ignore, so that will prevent you from responding to my correct, accurate and restrained posts. I see you cannot find any flaw in my reasoning, and are reduced to having to pretend to ignore me.

 

[stacey bo bacey]

Oh, please don't get him started about how he loves us so much he wants to help us overcome the terrible trial of being different from him....

Hahahaha, true..

 

[Autodidact]

and this is why i am going to just hit the ignore button because of you're bafooning around not knowing about anything you're talking about. you're on the same level as Fish-Hunter in my book.

Interesting. When he says it, it's common sense, but when I say it, it's bafooning around.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

We tolerate them, we aren't telling them what to do, just letting them know what they can't do.

How exactly is "letting them know what they can't do" not "telling them what to do"?

 

[Magic Man]

Interesting. When he says it, it's common sense, but when I say it, it's bafooning around.

Well, duh, anything he says is inspired by God, so, of course it's common sense.

 

[Sententia]

You can not be serious. This sentence does not even make sense.

A bastion of hope in the LDS world. Thanks Apex!

 

[madhatter85]

It could be if God made it so, couldn't it? Or are you trying to put limits on God?

now you are just being silly.

God has said no. and until he comes out and says it's okay i will forever retain my position. I also know they he never would because of what i know about the Nature of God.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

God has said no. and until he comes out and says it's okay i will forever retain my position. I also know they he never would because of what i know about the Nature of God.

Do you mean this nature of God (1 John 4:16)?

God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him.

Or did you maybe mean the nature of God's Law (1 Colossians 2:20-23)?

Since you died with Christ to the basic principles of this world, why, as though you still belonged to it, do you submit to its rules: "Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!"? These are all destined to perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings. Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence.

Maybe it would clear things up if you explained exactly where, when and how you think God said "no".

 

[madhatter85]

Do you mean this nature of God (1 John 4:16)?



Or did you maybe mean the nature of God's Law (1 Colossians 2:20-23)?



Maybe it would clear things up if you explained exactly where, when and how you think God said "no".

through both old and modern day prophets.

Same-Gender Attraction - LDS Newsroom

LDS.org - Liahona Article - Serving the Lord and Resisting the Devil

 

[Autodidact]

through both old and modern day prophets.

Same-Gender Attraction - LDS Newsroom

LDS.org - Liahona Article - Serving the Lord and Resisting the Devil

Oh, I see, not God at all, but some guy who thinks he knows what God wants.

 

[misanthropic_clown]

I was personally pretty shocked that the Church decided to step into what I essentially believe to be a political/legal issue. I've always been proud to repeat the mantra that the LDS may appear to have strict rules to the outside world, but at least we don't attempt to impose these rules in any official political capacity. Rather, it is usually left to the members to decide themselves what is moral in a situation at hand.

Frankly, I feel that this intervention is a betrayal of a longstanding tradition of neutrality and should not be looked upon kindly by members, regardless of their actual opinions of the morality of the issues at hand.

 

[Autodidact]

I was personally pretty shocked that the Church decided to step into what I essentially believe to be a political/legal issue. I've always been proud to repeat the mantra that the LDS may appear to have strict rules to the outside world, but at least we don't attempt to impose these rules in any official political capacity. Rather, it is usually left to the members to decide themselves what is moral in a situation at hand.

Frankly, I feel that this intervention is a betrayal of a longstanding tradition of neutrality and should not be looked upon kindly by members, regardless of their actual opinions of the morality of the issues at hand.

Interesting. Didn't know that. Thanks. Other Mormons? What do you think of what misanthrope is saying?

 

[Apex]

Interesting. Didn't know that. Thanks. Other Mormons? What do you think of what misanthrope is saying?

There are at least 3 or 4 others here, including me, who have been saying the same thing for a while now.

 

[Father Heathen]

because same sex marriage is not righteous.

I don't think Mormonism is righteous, either, but should the state or the public care what you or I personally think is "righteous" or not? No, because you know, freedom?

 

[madhatter85]

I was personally pretty shocked that the Church decided to step into what I essentially believe to be a political/legal issue. I've always been proud to repeat the mantra that the LDS may appear to have strict rules to the outside world, but at least we don't attempt to impose these rules in any official political capacity. Rather, it is usually left to the members to decide themselves what is moral in a situation at hand.

Frankly, I feel that this intervention is a betrayal of a longstanding tradition of neutrality and should not be looked upon kindly by members, regardless of their actual opinions of the morality of the issues at hand.

It may seem liek that but you do not understand the gravity of the situation.

I know that the prophets have seen what it would do and what kind of problems it would cause for the freedom to enjoy religion.

The enjoyment of religious freedom takes a back seat in every legal issue there is. and there will be lawsuits and political lobbying against churches who do not recognize SSM, who refuse to perform them and such. And yes, even though the church does not owe anything to anyone, there will still be problems that arise for the church because of legalaizing same sex marriages.