Left Wing Conspiracy Theories Debunked

[Shadow Wolf]

There are chem trails and weather machines, but I'm not sure if that is predominately believed by one side or both.

 

[Heyo]

One possible difference between the sides, perhaps conspiracy theories on the right are better funded by political interests groups than those on the left, or at least backed by more powerful right wing politicians.

So you believe in the conspiracy theory that conspiracy theories are funded by the money elite?
I'd agree that some must have external funding. Most are just self perpetuating once they are out. There are enough loonies who put time into it without getting paid.

 

[Heyo]

First and foremost I should point out that everything listed so far are really extremist ideas common to both the left and the right. Extremes with “deep state” nonsense.
I will admit that generally the ideas about the CIA do come from the left.

The Cocaine Import Association has been caught in so many conspiracies and illegal activities that it is only natural to assume they are at it again.

 

[fantome profane]

Generally the big difference between the left and the right is their attitude to authority and conformity. The left is much more difficult to organize (herding cats). That is why it is hard to find the same kind of “organized conspiracy movements” on the left as you do on the right. There may be some, but even those tend to take stronger root on the right (911 conspiracies, anti-vaxer conspiracies etc). The left tends to be more open to new ideas which is good, but sometimes they are open to a lot of nonsense. If anything I think here are more wacky wrong ideas on the left, but by they time they get organized half the people have lost interest or decided to rebel against that organization.

 

[Mock Turtle]

Trump being indebted to the Russians in some way was the indication, even if not true, based on what he seemed to do whenever anything came up and placed the Russians as villains - and where Trump even ignored what his own secret services were telling him - apparently. Not sure that had any lefty connotation.

 

[Sunstone]

So you believe in the conspiracy theory that conspiracy theories are funded by the money elite?
I'd agree that some must have external funding. Most are just self perpetuating once they are out. There are enough loonies who put time into it without getting paid.

Did I say that, or did I say it was a possibility? I'm accustomed to making such distinctions, and placing great weight on them.

By the way, in the past few months, an effort has begun by investigative journalists to document the flow of money in America from many of our billionaires to right wing extremists. Just so you know.

 

[exchemist]

Seems to me a larger portion of folks on the left recognize a conspiracy theory on their side of the aisle than the portion of folks on the right who recognize a conspiracy theory on their side of the aisle. That's just an impression built up over the years, of course, but I'd be quite curious to learn of anyone has researched it.

Other than that, I think a number of the 'conspiracy theories' already listed in this thread might be hard to prove they meet the criteria for being a genuine conspiracy. Namely, where's the conspiracy? Nutty ideas, for sure. But conspiracies? Some of the 'example's tossed out seem questionable.

One possible difference between the sides, perhaps conspiracy theories on the right are better funded by political interests groups than those on the left, or at least backed by more powerful right wing politicians.

Here's my entry for non-conspiracy conspiracy theories on the left: The nutty left-wing idea that Starbucks has decent coffee. It's only decent if mixed with something.

I think if you were at university in the early 1970s you might be less sure about that. There was an awful lot of crazy talk about "police states" and so on, which somehow never quite extended to the actual police states at the time, in the Communist Bloc.

But I agree that the Right has been the wing that has tended to be suspicious of intellectuals and that latterly this has led to the "We've had enough of experts" mindset. This attitude positively encourages stupid or mad ideas to be given parity with informed ones....as we have seen amply demonstrated......

 

[Heyo]

Did I say that, or did I say it was a possibility? I'm accustomed to making such distinctions, and placing great weight on them.

By the way, in the past few months, an effort has begun by investigative journalists to document the flow of money in America from many of our billionaires to right wing extremists. Just so you know.

Would be interesting to see. But are those donations tax deductible? Donations to religious groups are. And the religious groups don't have to reveal who funds them. My guess is that AiG and DI have some potent sponsors.

 

[ecco]

Here's my entry for non-conspiracy conspiracy theories on the left: The nutty left-wing idea that Starbucks has decent coffee. It's only decent if mixed with something.

It ain't all left wingers. I had coffee once in Starbucks (someone else was buying). Black, no sugar. OK, but nothing special.

 

[Kooky]

So you believe in the conspiracy theory that conspiracy theories are funded by the money elite?

It's not a "conspiracy theory" when there is evidence for politicians openly supporting Qanon or other antisemitic conspiracy theories. These politicians can only run campaigns with private donations, typically delivered by allied business interests. So if they do not directly and deliberately support it, then being a right-wing conspiracy theorist is, at the very least, not a major problem for a number of donors.

 

[Revoltingest]

In the news...
Spike Lee Admits to Suspicions About 'Official Explanations' of 9/11 Attacks: 'I Got Questions'
What's odd is that Spike has questions that are easily addressed.
But apparently he hasn't sought answers. It's been 10 years, Spike!

Excerpted...
Spike Lee has admitted to questioning the “official explanations” of the 9/11 World Trade Center attacks.

Lee made the comments during a New York Times interview promoting his new four-part documentary series New York Epicenters: 9/11-2021½, which premiered on HBO on Sunday.

The installment, according to HBO’s synopsis, “is a rich tapestry of New York City in the 21st century, weaving together the stories, memories, and insights of those who were eyewitnesses to New York’s greatest challenges.”

At one point in the interview, reporter Reggie Ugwu asked why the last episode of the series “devotes a lot of time to questioning how and why the towers fell,” adding, “You interview several members of the conspiracy group Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth.”

“Because I still don’t … I mean, I got questions,” Lee replied. “And I hope that maybe the legacy of this documentary is that Congress holds a hearing, a congressional hearing about 9/11.”

Ugwu followed up to clarify Lee’s stance on 9/11 conspiracy theories, asking if he doesn’t “buy the official explanations” of the World Trade Center terrorist attack.

“The amount of heat that it takes to make steel melt, that temperature’s not reached,” Lee argued. “And then the juxtaposition of the way Building 7 fell to the ground — when you put it next to other building collapses that were demolitions, it’s like you’re looking at the same thing. But people going to make up their own mind. My approach is put the information in the movie and let people decide for themselves. I respect the intelligence of the audience.”

Ugwu continued to push the director, noting that he doesn’t advice people to make up their own minds on other conspiracy theories, including that “the vaccine is poison” or whether or not President Joe Biden was truly elected.

 

[Heyo]

Ugwu continued to push the director, noting that he doesn’t advice people to make up their own minds on other conspiracy theories, including that “the vaccine is poison” or whether or not President Joe Biden was truly elected.

Some "conspiracy theories" are not like the others. I guess 9/11 will still be discussed in 40 years like the JFK assassination is still discussed today.
(And the 20th anniversary is fast approaching.)

 

[Revoltingest]

Some "conspiracy theories" are not like the others. I guess 9/11 will still be discussed in 40 years like the JFK assassination is still discussed today.
(And the 20th anniversary is fast approaching.)

There are only 2 kinds of conspiracies....
1) Evidenced
2) Unevidenced

 

[Heyo]

There are only 2 kinds of conspiracies....
1) Evidenced
2) Unevidenced

I'd say there are
1) those which are based on a lot of assumptions
2) those which are based on a lot of unanswered questions

JFK and 9/11 are both of the second kind.