We have something, but you don't want it.
Yes, so does Mormonism. They haveclaims and revelations and are waiting for you.
So does Hinduism, they have claims and a book and are waiting.
So does Christianity, they have a book and claims and want members.
So does Islam, they have a book and claims. Those others don't interest or convince you. Yet you think your book should be different, Same claims, Same "nothing new" theology, still thinks the OT is real and not metaphorical fiction.
No, you don't have anything.
Also the concept of a God who gives humans free will to choose to sin or not is also a copy from th ePersian God:
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In Zoroastrianism the supreme God, Ahura Mazda, gives all humans free-will so that they may choose between good and evil. As we have seen, the religion of Zoroaster may have been the first to discover ethical individualism. The first Hebrew prophet to speak unequivocally in terms of individual moral responsibility was Ezekiel, a prophet of the Babylonian exile. Up until that time Hebrew ethics had been guided by the idea of the corporate personality – that, e.g., the sins of the fathers are visited upon the sons (Ex. 20:1-2)."
Allah / YHWH does not "create divinities" ..
the Hebrew shema, and Arabic Kalima state "there is none other than God".
All the rest is creation, which is not to be worshiped.
"A Muslim recognizes that Angels are but a creation of God. I"
Angels are a creation by God in Islam. You not worshipping them is just personal theology a human put in your book. Means nothing. Fiction is fiction.
You don't know anything of the sort. You just don't believe it.
Yeah the 7 levels of heaven are real. HA HA HA HA HA HA. Great, so is Big Foot, Roswell aliens, fairies, Spider Man and Leprachauns. Again, evidence.
Is it?
..then we are all childish .. what about life imprisonment?
Life imprisonment fits the crime of murder. Eternal punishment doesn't. It also doesn't fit non-belief. But a God didn't say that. Men who thought like Byzantine Kings wrote it.
When they still believed devils were running around and the cause of disease.
Relatively speaking, they are.
They write books, and seek income from them.
No they get a salary. They get to work in a field they are passionite about. There evidence is there for all to see.
God expects us to use the intelligence that we possess.
One does not have to be stupid, or ignore evidence to believe in God.
Yes you do. You do exactly that . You create fake evidence from a myth and ignore evidence of syncretism, ignore evidence that "revelations:" don't say anything a human didn't already know at that time, gave a basic theology anyone didn't already know, a philosophy anyone didn't already know and used Greek science and apologists then said "it must be from God because this could not have been known" Except it could, Arab scholars were studying Greek science. so it could be known, they lied. Hmmmmmm, when you have to lie there is a reason.
It
can, but I do not believe it has.
And as usual what is your evidence please?, Speculation, imagination, claims? This is why we are done. You have no debate here.
Disbeliever: probably copied.
Believer: based on truth.
Uh no that isn't what happens. All scholars know Noah was copied from Gilamesh. They would be stupid to not recognize that.
So it's :
disbeliever: looks to be syncretic
believer: denial denial.......cll my apologist quick.....!
Noah's flood[
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Andrew George submits that the
Genesis flood narrative matches that in Gilgamesh so closely that "few doubt" that it derives from a Mesopotamian account.
[67] What is particularly noticeable is the way the Genesis flood story follows the
Gilgamesh flood tale "point by point and in the same order", even when the story permits other alternatives.
[68] In a 2001 Torah commentary released on behalf of the Conservative Movement of Judaism, rabbinic scholar
Robert Wexler stated: "The most likely assumption we can make is that both Genesis and Gilgamesh drew their material from a common tradition about the flood that existed in Mesopotamia. These stories then diverged in the retelling."
[69] Ziusudra,
Utnapishtim and
Noah are the respective heroes of the Sumerian, Akkadian and biblical flood legends of the
ancient Near East.
The Enuma Elish would later be the inspiration for the Hebrew scribes who created the text now known as the biblical Book of Genesis. Prior to the 19th century CE, the
Bible was considered the oldest book in the world and its narratives were thought to be completely original. In the mid-19th century CE, however, European museums, as well as academic and religious institutions, sponsored excavations in Mesopotamia to find physical evidence for historical corroboration of the stories in the Bible. These excavations found quite the opposite, however, in that, once
cuneiform was translated, it was understood that a number of biblical narratives were Mesopotamian in origin.
Religion, Identity and the Origins of Ancient Israel
K.L. Sparks, Baptist Pastor, Professor Eastern U.
As a rule, modern scholars do not believe that the Bible's account of early Israel's history provides a wholly accurate portrait of Israel's origins. One reason for this is that the earliest part of Israel's history in Genesis is now regarded as something other than a work of modern history. Its primary author was at best an ancient historian (if a historian at all), who lived long after the events he narrated, and who drew freely from sources that were not historical (legends and theological stories); he was more concerned with theology than with the modern quest to learn 'what actually happened' (Van Seters 1992; Sparks 2002, pp. 37-71; Maidman 2003).
You go live in your make-believe world. There is nothing here to learn. I've learned you think claims are evidence and a religion you accepted 40 years ago but never questioned or looked into with a non-bias rational skeptical mind. Whatever works. I'm interested in truth.
