Let Freedom Ring! Mubarak leaves Cairo!

[YmirGF]

Exactly!
The army supports the people. And no one right now would dare to go through troubles with them.

You have no idea what it means to destroy a regime that has been supessing people for 30 years or more. The people's spirit can not be described.

The Army's benifit is to support the streets.

And yet the military has supported and kept him in power for 3 decades. The Egyptian protesters strike me as be incredibly naive. And as someone has already commented that is the perfect climate to plant the seeds of a new dictator. No doubt, you folks will love him/her -- at first.

 

[Bismillah]

It wasn't the army that kept Mubarak in power, it was Mubarak who kept the Army content.

 

[maro]

Exactly!
The army supports the people. And no one right now would dare to go through troubles with them.

You have no idea what it means to destroy a regime that has been supessing people for 30 years or more. The people's spirit can not be described.

The Army's benifit is to support the streets.

WE Did it Ahmad !! :slap:

 

[Rakhel]

Not trying to rain on any parades but I feel I must remind everyone of the October and December Revolutions. No one asked questions then and look what happened.

 

[Skwim]

Most seem to trust the military to be transitional order only. The people in the square are shaking the hands of the military and carrying them on shoulders; children are kissing them!.

Exactly!
The army supports the people. And no one right now would dare to go through troubles with them.

You have no idea what it means to destroy a regime that has been supessing people for 30 years or more. The people's spirit can not be described.

The Army's benifit is to support the streets.

Don't confuse the soldiers in the street with their leaders. When they say the military is in charge they aren't talking about the grunts, but the the highest brass, which has been verrry tight with Mubarak. Why else would Mubarak go against the country's established rule of succession and select the military to succeed him.

 

[EiNsTeiN]

And yet the military has supported and kept him in power for 3 decades. The Egyptian protesters strike me as be incredibly naive. And as someone has already commented that is the perfect climate to plant the seeds of a new dictator. No doubt, you folks will love him/her -- at first.

The Army announced that it will not supress the people's demands, and would not impose itself in the political scene once this is over.

Egyptians respect the Army since ever and we are confident about their intentions.

Lets just celebrate for now; the end of a horrible era in Egypt

WE Did it Ahmad !! :slap:

We did it Mayada

 

[EiNsTeiN]

Don't confuse the soldiers in the street with their leaders. When they say the military is in charge they aren't talking about the grunts, but the the highest brass, which has been verrry tight with Mubarak.

And Mubarak is over now. The Army realizes that people's will is now much stronger than the regime.
The Army could have supported Mubarak till the end, but they left him for the sake of people (i.e. for the stronger side)

 

[Skwim]

And Mubarak is over now. The Army realizes that people's will is now much stronger than the regime.
The Army could have supported Mubarak till the end, but they left him for the sake of people (i.e. for the stronger side)

When did they leave him? I must have missed that news announcment.

 

[EiNsTeiN]

When did they leave him? I must have missed that news announcment.

Do you think Mubarak just resigned by himself?
The Army has been negotiating intensively with Mubarak the possible exits for few days, and at the end, the Army had to take the decision for him to save the last hope for stability.

 

[Father Heathen]

Now we wait to see what new dictator they replace him with.

 

[Willamena]

When did they leave him? I must have missed that news announcment.

It's been made clear in the news for the past few days that the army's distancing themselves from involvement should be seen as siding with the people.

 

[Willamena]

(Note, Pres Obama speaks at 1:30est. EDIT: now moved to 3pm)

This is The Barack Obama Show
The Barack Obama Show
This is the part of the show
Where they roll the credits...

 

[England my lionheart]

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[EiNsTeiN]

The people would never allow for that.

We marched in millions to denounce the dictator, and we would never allow for this to happen again.

You are underestimating the power of people.
The people made this, and not the Army.
We selected the Army to run the transitional phase. The Army didn't impose any decision on the people, and would think a lot before going through troubles with them.

Edit:
Quoting FH

 

[Skwim]

Do you think Mubarak just resigned by himself?
The Army has been negotiating intensively with Mubarak the possible exits for few days, and at the end, the Army had to take the decision for him to save the last hope for stability.

Interesting. Got a source for this?

 

[Alceste]

Man, some of you can't resist raining on a parade. Should we stop celebrating Christmas because there's no such person as Santa Claus? The Egyptian people fought for democracy and against political repression and won a major victory. Let's celebrate with them. Will the next government be perfect? Of course not. Nobody is perfect. Are there still serious risks on the road to democracy? Of course there are - we struggle against those ourselves. The jubilation springs not from delusions that the job is done but from the realization that a people who were until last week prohibited from gathering in the streets in groups larger than five gathered in the millions and unseated a comfortably tenured dictator. Ordinary people - not bankers, politicians, monarchs and oil barons - changed the course of history for once.

 

[Alceste]

Interesting. Got a source for this?

The timeline is that the Supreme Council of Armed Forces met without Mubarak or Suleiman, then announced to the media Mubarak would be resigning in a televised speech. Mubarak the got his televised speech but did not resign. The Council met again (without Mubarak or Suleiman) then Mubarak scuttled off in silence while Suleiman made a glum announcement that Mubarak had resigned. Then the military made a statement pledging to concede to the people's demands and oversee a transition to democratic elections and constitutional reform.

Those are the facts. I'll leave their interpretation to you.

My sources are Al Jazeera English, the CBC, the BBC and the Guardian.

 

[Skwim]

Man, some of you can't resist raining on a parade.

Didn't realize your mood was so sensitive to the concerns of others. Might want to think about gumping up a bit.

 

[Rakhel]

It's called a "reality check." Something even you, Aleceste, are very happy to throw in peoples' faces.

 

[Jacksnyte]

The timeline is that the Supreme Council of Armed Forces met without Mubarak or Suleiman, then announced to the media Mubarak would be resigning in a televised speech. Mubarak the got his televised speech but did not resign. The Council met again (without Mubarak or Suleiman) then Mubarak scuttled off in silence while Suleiman made a glum announcement that Mubarak had resigned. Then the military made a statement pledging to concede to the people's demands and oversee a transition to democratic elections and constitutional reform.

Those are the facts. I'll leave their interpretation to you.

My sources are Al Jazeera English, the CBC, the BBC and the Guardian.

We could take some inspiration from these folks! If we are ever in the position where the majority in the U.S. are not happy with our government, I would hope we would have the guts as a nation to stand up and make that change. Of course events in the last decade or more, such as possibly rigged elections, etc., have shown a large portion of those in the U.S. to be apathetic drones.