Let There "Be" Light

[Fool]

the christian bible says god is light. but we also know light was created on the first day per the jewish torah.


if then god is light, is light made up of some aspect of what is called god?

if we are the light of the world, are we to somehow some aspect of this thing called god?

 

[SalixIncendium]

the christian bible says god is light. but we also know light was created on the first day per the jewish torah.


if then god is light, is light made up of some aspect of what is called god?

Maybe God just ain't heavy.
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if we are the light of the world, are we to somehow some aspect of this thing called god?

How did we get from God is light and light being made up from some aspect of what is called God to "we are the light of the world?"

 

[Fool]

How did we get from God is light and light being made up from some aspect of what is called God to "we are the light of the world?"

in the same christian bible it states that people are the light of the world, a city set on a hill cannot be hid.

 

[SalixIncendium]

in the same christian bible it states that people are the light of the world, a city set on a hill cannot be hid.

If Jesus is the light of the world, as he stated in John 8:12, then it would stand to reason that those he was speaking to in Matthew 5, which Matthew 5:1 states were his disciples, were the light of Christ in the world, no? It doesn't appear he was speaking to everyone; just his disciples.

 

[Fool]

If Jesus is the light of the world, as he stated in John 8:12, then it would stand to reason that those he was speaking to in Matthew 5, which Matthew 5:1 states were his disciples, were the light of Christ in the world, no? It doesn't appear he was speaking to everyone; just his disciples.

the law doesn't differentiate between followers, disciples, or otherwise.

in matthew 5 he was speaking to the disciples but if you read what it says, he was speaking about people in general, not exclusively the disciples. the law isn't for those who just believe, know, but also those who do not believe, do not know, or do not even understand
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[1213]

the christian bible says god is light. but we also know light was created on the first day per the jewish torah.

Maybe it is possible that many lights exist and not all of them are the God.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

"don't eat the menu"

 

[Fool]

Yeshua said,
If they say to you, “Where have you come from?”
say to them, “We have come from the light,
from the place where the light came into being by itself,
established itself, and appeared in their image.”
If they say to you, “Is it you?”
say, “We are its children and the chosen of the living father.”
If they ask you, “What is the evidence of your father in you?”
say to them, “It is motion and rest.”

 

[IndigoChild5559]

the christian bible says god is light. but we also know light was created on the first day per the jewish torah.


if then god is light, is light made up of some aspect of what is called god?

if we are the light of the world, are we to somehow some aspect of this thing called god?

You are conflating the literal use of "light" which refers to the waves or photons emanating from a source of energy such as the sun, with the figurative use of the word "light" meant to describe the revelation of truth. It's like when I say, "Your post was illuminating" I'm not actually saying that your post is giving off photons.

 

[Fool]

You are conflating the literal use of "light" which refers to the waves or photons emanating from a source of energy such as the sun, with the figurative use of the word "light" meant to describe the revelation of truth. It's like when I say, "Your post was illuminating" I'm not actually saying that your post is giving off photons.

one is observed inwardly the other outwardly but both are obviously physical due to action. there is light/dark energy and light/dark matter. not all things are observable to the outward eye but can be to the mind's eye.

 

[Fool]

And love said, “Let there be understanding,” and there was understanding. 4 love saw that the understanding was good, and it separated the understanding from the confusion/chaos. 5 love called the understanding “deity(shine),” and the confusion he called “nix.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

(24) His disciples said to him, "Show us the place where you are, since it is necessary for us to seek it."
He said to them, "Whoever has ears, let him hear. There is light within a man of light, and he lights up the whole world. If he does not shine, he is darkness."


(50) Jesus said, "If they say to you, 'Where did you come from?', say to them, 'We came from the light, the place where the light came into being on its own accord and established itself and became manifest through their image.' If they say to you, 'Is it you?', say, 'We are its children, we are the elect of the living father.' If they ask you, 'What is the sign of your father in you?', say to them, 'It is movement and repose.'"

 

[IndigoChild5559]

one is observed inwardly the other outwardly but both are obviously physical due to action. there is light/dark energy and light/dark matter. not all things are observable to the outward eye but can be to the mind's eye.

Visible light can be understood as a wave or a photon, but whichever approach you choose to use, it is the identical visible light. Figurative light, which we we COMMONLY use as a metaphor for truth, is not the same thing as visible light. When we say God is light, or Israel is a light to the nations, we are not talking about visible light.

 

[Fool]

Visible light can be understood as a wave or a photon, but whichever approach you choose to use, it is the identical visible light. Figurative light, which we we COMMONLY use as a metaphor for truth, is not the same thing as visible light. When we say God is light, or Israel is a light to the nations, we are not talking about visible light.

discernment is still a physical thing and it's still a vibration, the name of god is a verb. being is a movement, a physical thing, consciousness, spirit, mind is a physical thing, even if you can't quantify it or control it.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

discernment is still a physical thing and it's still a vibration,

No, its not.

the name of god is a verb.

Possibly, but no one can say for sure, since knowledge of the vowels has been lost.

being is a movement, a physical thing, consciousness, spirit, mind is a physical thing, even if you can't quantify it or control it.

Do you mean being as in the noun, or being as in the verb?

Physical things are made up of matter. If something lacks matter, whether it is God or Love or movement, it is not physical. A wave or action can impact physical things, but that's not really the same thing.

 

[joelr]

the christian bible says god is light. but we also know light was created on the first day per the jewish torah.


if then god is light, is light made up of some aspect of what is called god?

if we are the light of the world, are we to somehow some aspect of this thing called god?

From David Litwa's, Lesous Deus:


LIGHT


I noted above that brilliant light imagery is perhaps the most common sign of an epiphany in the ancient Mediterranean world. In a childhood epiphany of Heracles’s divinity, for example, the house is flooded with light, and his parents “can see the walls as clearly as if it was bright dawn” (Theocr., Idylls 24.22, 38). In a dream epiphany to Aeneas, the divine Penates are “manifest in brilliant light” (multo manifesti lumine) (Virg., Aen. 3.151). Aeneas later tells Dido that he saw Mercury come to him manifesto in lumine (“in clear light”) (4.358). Venus later appears to Aeneas “bright white amidst ethereal clouds” (aetherios inter . . . candida nimbos) (8.608).73 The fact that Moses’ splendor is “sun-like” in Philo (Mos. 2.70) also recalls texts in which the Jewish deity has “the appearance of the sun” (1 En. 14:20; cf. Rev. 1:16).74


In the ancient world, some of the gods who shone so brightly were also human kings. On gold coins, Ptolemy III Euergetes (246–221 bce), Ptolemy V Epiphanes (204–180 bce), and Ptolemy VIII (144–116 bce) are all depicted with sun-like crowns beaming with light. The Seleucid kings Antiochus IV Epiphanes (175–164 bce), Antiochus VI Epiphanes Dionysus (145–42 bce) and Tryphon Diodotus (142–139 bce) portrayed themselves on coins with a nimbus of radiating light.75 This corona radiata in the royal context “is clearly meant to indicate apotheosis.”76 For an ancient Mediterranean reader, a kingly Moses could also appear in a divine light.


LIGHT


Finally—and most importantly—Mark uses light as a signal for Jesus’ divine status, and specifically the light of his clothing. Jesus’ garments, to quote the text, become “dazzling, extremely white” (στίλβοντα λευκὰ λίαν) (Mark 9:3). When introducing this chapter, I provided several examples of divine beings wearing garments of light. Additional instances are not difficult to find. The “splendid fine-woven garment” of the god Helios, “shimmers about him” (Hom. Hymn Sol. 31.13). Selene, the goddess of the Moon, has “garments that gleam from afar (εἵματα ... τηλαυγέα)” (Hom. Hymn Lun. 32.8). Yahweh is “wrapped in light as with a cloak” (ἀναβαλλόμενος φῶς ὡς ἱμάτιον) (Ps. 103:2 LXX).95

 

[Fool]

From David Litwa's, Lesous Deus:


LIGHT


I noted above that brilliant light imagery is perhaps the most common sign of an epiphany in the ancient Mediterranean world. In a childhood epiphany of Heracles’s divinity, for example, the house is flooded with light, and his parents “can see the walls as clearly as if it was bright dawn” (Theocr., Idylls 24.22, 38). In a dream epiphany to Aeneas, the divine Penates are “manifest in brilliant light” (multo manifesti lumine) (Virg., Aen. 3.151). Aeneas later tells Dido that he saw Mercury come to him manifesto in lumine (“in clear light”) (4.358). Venus later appears to Aeneas “bright white amidst ethereal clouds” (aetherios inter . . . candida nimbos) (8.608).73 The fact that Moses’ splendor is “sun-like” in Philo (Mos. 2.70) also recalls texts in which the Jewish deity has “the appearance of the sun” (1 En. 14:20; cf. Rev. 1:16).74


In the ancient world, some of the gods who shone so brightly were also human kings. On gold coins, Ptolemy III Euergetes (246–221 bce), Ptolemy V Epiphanes (204–180 bce), and Ptolemy VIII (144–116 bce) are all depicted with sun-like crowns beaming with light. The Seleucid kings Antiochus IV Epiphanes (175–164 bce), Antiochus VI Epiphanes Dionysus (145–42 bce) and Tryphon Diodotus (142–139 bce) portrayed themselves on coins with a nimbus of radiating light.75 This corona radiata in the royal context “is clearly meant to indicate apotheosis.”76 For an ancient Mediterranean reader, a kingly Moses could also appear in a divine light.


LIGHT


Finally—and most importantly—Mark uses light as a signal for Jesus’ divine status, and specifically the light of his clothing. Jesus’ garments, to quote the text, become “dazzling, extremely white” (στίλβοντα λευκὰ λίαν) (Mark 9:3). When introducing this chapter, I provided several examples of divine beings wearing garments of light. Additional instances are not difficult to find. The “splendid fine-woven garment” of the god Helios, “shimmers about him” (Hom. Hymn Sol. 31.13). Selene, the goddess of the Moon, has “garments that gleam from afar (εἵματα ... τηλαυγέα)” (Hom. Hymn Lun. 32.8). Yahweh is “wrapped in light as with a cloak” (ἀναβαλλόμενος φῶς ὡς ἱμάτιον) (Ps. 103:2 LXX).95

Love/light, let your love shine before men..........................