apophenia
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At home.
We aren't visiting them, because we can't. Is there any reason to think that beings from other star systems would be able to visit us ?
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At home.
We aren't visiting them, because we can't. Is there any reason to think that beings from other star systems would be able to visit us ?
ratikala
Istha gosthi
dear johnsweeting ,
speaking from a hindu or buddhist perspective , we dont think that everything in this universe revolves around us here on planet earth !
we live with the understanding that "I am one others are many ", and when we have grasped this on a simple human level we can expand that awareness beyond our own worlds existance , "we are one others are many"
there is full awareness that universes are constantly being born , whilst others are coming to their end .
you would find it very interesting to read more on this from a vedic prerspective .
"from the great cosmic mirror without begining , without end , human society became manifest .........
it is one of my favorite poems I will post it all later ,
but here you see the understanding of infinity .
speaking from a hindu or buddhist perspective , we dont think that everything in this universe revolves around us here on planet earth !
we live with the understanding that "I am one others are many ", and when we have grasped this on a simple human level we can expand that awareness beyond our own worlds existance , "we are one others are many"
there is full awareness that universes are constantly being born , whilst others are coming to their end .
our modern science has only recently descovered this , however the vedas have taught this all along .
at the time the bible was being written , the vedas were being taught the vedas teach very differently regarding this subject
you would find it very interesting to read more on this from a vedic prerspective .
in the words of one buddhist master
"from the great cosmic mirror without begining , without end , human society became manifest .........
it is one of my favorite poems I will post it all later ,
but here you see the understanding of infinity .
Hinduism mentions infinite universes and infinite beings that inhabit those universes.
Our sun is a star. Some stars do die violently or collapse although new stars are formed in stellar nurseries. Our sun is an example of matter being turned into energy. Earth is subject to decay. Earth is perishable. Rocks wear down or erode but replaced with volcanic or other activity. Earth changes but earth replenishes itself being resilient and bounces back. So, it's God that maintains earth. If God would stop re-newing the earth and sun they would wear out. Just as we refresh oneself by changing clothes, God will like removing an old garment God will refresh earth. -Psalm 102 vs 25,26; 104 v 5 .
Earth and Sun would perish but for the fact that God endures forever.
Pleasant dreams because the earth will always be here tomorrow. Nothing from space will ever destroy earth. Rather God will bring to ruin those ruining earth.- Rev. 11 v 18 B.
outhouse
Atheistically
on their own planet or spaceship.
I personaly believe there wold be beings who have been in space so long their species have evolved away from their original form, into ones that have adapted to space travel/living
arthra
Baha'i
John Sweeting wrote:
I am a non-believer but what does the different religions say about life in the universe? Is it even mentioned somewhere? At the time the bible was written for example, people though that the earth was the center of the universe and the sun was going around the earth.
What does the different religions say about life in the universe? Do they mention anything about the at least 17,000,0000,000,000,000,000,000 planets and the at least 17,000,0000,000,000,000,000,000 stars?
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Thanks for providing an interesting topic John! Actually it happens to be a favorite of mine.
I'll provide you with a few citations from the Baha'i Writings on the subject:
"Wert thou to ponder in thine heart the behavior of the Prophets of God thou wouldst assuredly and readily testify that there must needs be other worlds besides this world."
~ Baha'u'llah, Gleanings from the Writings of Baha'u'llah, p. 157
"We see you rejoicing in that which ye have amassed for others and shutting out yourselves from the worlds which naught except My guarded Tablet can reckon."
~ Baha'u'llah, Synopsis and Codification of the Kitab-i-Aqdas, p. 17
"The learned men, that have fixed at several thousand years the life of this earth, have failed, throughout the long period of their observation, to consider either the number or the age of the other planets. Consider, moreover, the manifold divergencies that have resulted from the theories propounded by these men. Know thou that every fixed star hath its own planets, and every planet its own creatures, whose number no man can compute."
~ Baha'u'llah, Gleanings from the Writings of Baha'u'llah, p. 162
"Regarding your questions: There is no record in history, or in the teachings, of a Prophet similar in Station to Bahá'u'lláh, having lived 500,000 years ago. There will, however, be one similar to Him in greatness after the lapse of 500,000 years, but we cannot say definitely that His Revelation will be inter-planetary in scope. We can only say that such a thing may be possible. What Bahá'u'lláh means by His appearance in 'other worlds' He has not defined, as we could not visualize them in our present state, hence He was indefinite, and we cannot say whether He meant other planets or not..."
(From a letter written on behalf of Shoghi Effendi to an individual believer, December 24, 1941)
(Compilations, Lights of Guidance, p. 471)
Some may find this next one unexpected:
Love is the universal magnetic power between the planets and stars shining in the lofty firmament!
~ Abdu'l-Baha, Tablets of Abdu'l-Baha v3, p. 525
I am a non-believer but what does the different religions say about life in the universe? Is it even mentioned somewhere? At the time the bible was written for example, people though that the earth was the center of the universe and the sun was going around the earth.
What does the different religions say about life in the universe? Do they mention anything about the at least 17,000,0000,000,000,000,000,000 planets and the at least 17,000,0000,000,000,000,000,000 stars?
..............................................................................
Thanks for providing an interesting topic John! Actually it happens to be a favorite of mine.
I'll provide you with a few citations from the Baha'i Writings on the subject:
"Wert thou to ponder in thine heart the behavior of the Prophets of God thou wouldst assuredly and readily testify that there must needs be other worlds besides this world."
~ Baha'u'llah, Gleanings from the Writings of Baha'u'llah, p. 157
"We see you rejoicing in that which ye have amassed for others and shutting out yourselves from the worlds which naught except My guarded Tablet can reckon."
~ Baha'u'llah, Synopsis and Codification of the Kitab-i-Aqdas, p. 17
"The learned men, that have fixed at several thousand years the life of this earth, have failed, throughout the long period of their observation, to consider either the number or the age of the other planets. Consider, moreover, the manifold divergencies that have resulted from the theories propounded by these men. Know thou that every fixed star hath its own planets, and every planet its own creatures, whose number no man can compute."
~ Baha'u'llah, Gleanings from the Writings of Baha'u'llah, p. 162
"Regarding your questions: There is no record in history, or in the teachings, of a Prophet similar in Station to Bahá'u'lláh, having lived 500,000 years ago. There will, however, be one similar to Him in greatness after the lapse of 500,000 years, but we cannot say definitely that His Revelation will be inter-planetary in scope. We can only say that such a thing may be possible. What Bahá'u'lláh means by His appearance in 'other worlds' He has not defined, as we could not visualize them in our present state, hence He was indefinite, and we cannot say whether He meant other planets or not..."
(From a letter written on behalf of Shoghi Effendi to an individual believer, December 24, 1941)
(Compilations, Lights of Guidance, p. 471)
Some may find this next one unexpected:
Love is the universal magnetic power between the planets and stars shining in the lofty firmament!
~ Abdu'l-Baha, Tablets of Abdu'l-Baha v3, p. 525
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Man of Faith
Well-Known Member
PolyHedral
Superabacus Mystic
In approximately 5 billion years' time, the Sun will expand to around 250 times its current size and in the process, permanently destroy all life on Earth, and mostly likely Earth itself. This is a simple consequence of the Sun having a finite amount of mass. If God wants the Earth not to die, He must either suspend thermodynamics, or something even more egregious.
True guys, I understand. I would be more excited to see space colonization starting than to find a raddish on Neptune...But, thats just me...
Well, both would be great... What is more important? Great, nevermind, Im going to have to think about my own stupid question on what would be more important...
I wouldn't worry about the daydream ramblings of a middle-aged woman like me. I think about such things in the same I think about someday there being peace on earth (unlikely as of now). I was just sharing some of those thoughts. :beach:
The Wizard
Active Member
I'm not sure peace on Earth is going to happen for a while. Alot of problems, currently. But, I can always work towards it and hope. Consequently, that is one of the reasons I would like to see colonization. I would love to leave!
Men [powers that be] will be saying 'Peace and Security' but that saying of 'peace, peace when there is no peace' is just a precursor to the coming 'great tribulation' before Jesus, as 'Prince of Peace', ushers in global Peace on Earth among men of goodwill.
The 'a lot of current 'global' problems' is part of a composite 'sign' or many facets of 'woe' happening on earth today which will soon climax with the words from Jesus' mouth executing all the wicked on earth.
- 1st Thessalonians 5 vs 2,3; Jeremiah; 6 v 14; 8 v 11; Revelation 7 v 14; 12 vs 9,12; 19 vs 11, 15; Isaiah 11 vs 3,4; Chapter 24 of Matthew, and chapter 21 of Luke.
The Wizard
Active Member
Nations are conquered by the parasite side subscribing to the peoples belief system or religion, the one that makes them look up and do nothing to be saved, as the conqueres role over them...
Understand, your revelations are not just a forwarning or vision. They were put there to point the next potential coming parasite a way to conquere (as described above). They gave them the way, but also made sure you could be aware of it, to act rightly. Be wise and think about that...imo.