Let's not talk about the Big Bang

[Ben Dhyan]

You have your concept of "replication" wrong. The evidence needs to be repeatable. That means if I observe something others have to be able to make the same observation and that is what happens with the Big Bang theory. Any person can make an error in observation. That is why observations need to be repeatable.

Observations are fine, please show me the evidence of repeatable replications of BB creation. SST evidence otoh is always present.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Observations are fine, please show me the evidence of repeatable replications of BB creation. SST evidence otoh is always present.

Nope, you were corrected on that error. And you do not get to make any demands until you do your homework. Or admit that you cannot do it.

When you run away from reasonable offers and providing the burden of proof that you were supposed to it is obvious to everyone Especially since I gave you a way to shift the burden of proof onto me.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Nope, you were corrected on that error. And you do not get to make any demands until you do your homework. Or admit that you cannot do it.

When you run away from reasonable offers and providing the burden of proof that you were supposed to it is obvious to everyone Especially since I gave you a way to shift the burden of proof onto me.

There is no real proof, just BB dogmatic claims to the effect that there was a BB that changed non-existence into existence, plus then the brainwashing of children through education to grow up believing it to be real. You are one of them.

Scientific theories are ok, but they forever remain theory until actually realized.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

How so? What dogma have I demonstrated? It appears that you are making false accusations using words that you do not understand.

And your last sentence is unclear and appears to have a false conclusion if you are trying to say what I think that you are saying.

But remember, I have answered your questions time and time again. You screwed up in your answers time and time again. And to show this you need to convert that energy you quoted into mass. But you are either very very afraid that you are wrong or cannot do it. All that you have to do is admit that you cannot do the simple math and I will complete it for you. You put the burden of proof upon me by admitting that you can't do it.

Your turn to answer. Once you have shown at least a good faith effort then you can ask me questions.

Atheist dogmatic beliefs, BB dogmatic beliefs.

Yes, until science can actually unambiguously show how non-existence can become existence through a BB, it remains a theory only.

 

[Subduction Zone]

There is no real proof, just BB dogmatic claims to the effect that there was a BB that changed non-existence into existence, plus then the brainwashing of children through education to grow up believing it to be real. You are one of them.

Scientific theories are ok, but they forever remain theory until actually realized.

You keep telling us that you do not even have a ninth grade level of scientific literacy. You cannot correct anyone when you do not know anything.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Atheist dogmatic beliefs, BB dogmatic beliefs.

Yes, until science can actually unambiguously show how non-existence can become existence through a BB, it remains a theory only.

And you did it again. A theory is at the top of the hierarchy in science. A scientific theory explains scientific facts. You need to learn the meaning of the words that you abuse.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

And you did it again. A theory is at the top of the hierarchy in science. A scientific theory explains scientific facts. You need to learn the meaning of the words that you abuse.

Sure, because of the rigors of experiment and control, it is much more likely that a theory will be true than a hypothesis. But the BB theory has not yet been proven to be true, a something from absolute nothing experiment has not happened.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

You keep telling us that you do not even have a ninth grade level of scientific literacy. You cannot correct anyone when you do not know anything.

The light shines in the darkness and the darkness comprehends it not. BB science is in its infancy, I doubt it will even exist in the near future, evolution proceeds and knowledge is unfolding. Keep an open mind and allow there is much more to come.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Sure, because of the rigors of experiment and control, it is much more likely that a theory will be true than a hypothesis. But the BB theory has not yet been proven to be true, a something from absolute nothing experiment has not happened.

Once again, no theory is ever proven true. The theory of gravity is not proven true. All there is in science is evidence. You should have learned this in the ninth grade.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The light shines in the darkness and the darkness comprehends it not. BB science is in its infancy, I doubt it will even exist in the near future, evolution proceeds and knowledge is unfolding. Keep an open mind and allow there is much more to come.

On my, you do make me laugh a bit. You keep telling us how ignorant you are and then try to act as if you are on the high road. And you cannot even do your homework.

Either do your homework or admit that you cannot do so.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Once again, no theory is ever proven true. The theory of gravity is not proven true. All there is in science is evidence. You should have learned this in the ninth grade.

Nonsense, your head is full of thoughts about reality instead of experiencing reality. Thoughts represent the real, experience is the real. Everthing has its place, including thinking, but the real that is thought about is forever on the other side of the thought. That is why atheists are forever in the dark, they think the reality represent by the concept God is not real when it is their own thoughts that are not real, except as fleeting synapse firings.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Nonsense, your head is full of thoughts about reality instead of experiencing reality. Thoughts represent the real, experience is the real. Everthing has its place, including thinking, but the real that is thought about is forever on the other side of the thought. That is why atheists are forever in the dark, they think the reality represent by the concept God is not real when it is their own thoughts that are not real, except as fleeting synapse firings.

Nope, more nonsense. Himm, I do not see an answer to a reasonable quesiton.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

On my, you do make me laugh a bit. You keep telling us how ignorant you are and then try to act as if you are on the high road. And you cannot even do your homework.

Either do your homework or admit that you cannot do so.

You are obsessed with school, that is why you are stuck in the darkness, School is meant to prepare you for a productive adult life and here you fixated on what you learnt at school, memory by rote. Time to grow up and learn what and who you really are in the context of infinite eternity, or you will have to repeat your present grade of evolution.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Nope, more nonsense. Himm, I do not see an answer to a reasonable quesiton.

You are an atheist, what possible reasonable question can there be, you don't know what a human being really is in the context of universal existence,

 

[Subduction Zone]

You are obsessed with school, that is why you are stuck in the darkness, School is meant to prepare you for a productive adult life and here you fixated on what you learnt at school, memory by rote. Time to grow up and learn what and who you really are in the context of infinite eternity, or you will have to repeat your present grade of evolution.

More false claims. And still no answer to a reasonable question. It is almost as if you have no clue about physics at all.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You are an atheist, what possible reasonable question can there be, you don't know what a human being really is in the context of universal existence,

Oh my! So backwards. So backwards.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Let's not forget that the BB is all theory and belief in the theory by the relatively primitive humans of the planet. All the humans that believe in the BB are most probably imho, wrong about a beginning to the universe. You believe because of the 'monkey see, monkey do' principle, ie., fall in line with the atheistic educational teaching. The universe is eternal and never had a beginning, and until science can explain why and how it came into existence, the BB should be taken only as a hypothetical model that challenges the more reasonable steady state eternal cosmos.

So how do you know that?

 

[Ben Dhyan]

So how do you know that?

Reason. Existence can not begin in non-existence, only manifested things have beginnings and endings.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

More false claims. And still no answer to a reasonable question. It is almost as if you have no clue about physics at all.

School is for children, so they grow up to live in human society to be productive, school is all about theory. You will never really find out what and who you are in the context of existence from purely textbook theory, subjective experience is a great teacher.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Reason. Existence can not begin in non-existence, only manifested things have beginnings and endings.

So how you think as per reason determines what is independent of your thinking?
Well, I stopped using reason like that even when I was an atheist.