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Liberal bias.

Deo Vindice

Member
How and when did the news media, the entertainment industry, academia, and science gain a liberal bias? It doesn't make sense that corporate types and celebrities would support a political agenda that considers their wealth, products, content, materialism, power and influence to be "decadent". They've sold out to an ideology that if fully in control would send them to the gulag.
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
Define "liberal bias" and give us examples. Your opening post is vague and assumes everyone knows what you mean.

Social conservatism is being pushed into the margin of society and politics instead of occupying a position of power and respect. Nobody who makes such an argument considers neo-liberalism as being pushed into the shadows, nor fiscal conservatism or many other staple of conservative ideologies.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Social conservatism is being pushed into the margin of society and politics instead of occupying a position of power and respect. Nobody who makes such an argument considers neo-liberalism as being pushed into the shadows, nor fiscal conservatism or many other staple of conservative ideologies.
Give examples of social conservatism that is being pushed into the margins. And explain why it deserves power and respect.
 

danieldemol

Veteran Member
Premium Member
How and when did the news media, the entertainment industry, academia, and science gain a liberal bias? It doesn't make sense that corporate types and celebrities would support a political agenda that considers their wealth, products, content, materialism, power and influence to be "decadent". They've sold out to an ideology that if fully in control would send them to the gulag.
You appear to have been indoctrinated in lies, there are plenty of societies that are liberal and do not have gulags.

Australia being one amongst other examples in my opinion.
 
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QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
How and when did the news media, the entertainment industry, academia, and science gain a liberal bias? It doesn't make sense that corporate types and celebrities would support a political agenda that considers their wealth, products, content, materialism, power and influence to be "decadent". They've sold out to an ideology that if fully in control would send them to the gulag.

I see no evidence that such a liberal bias exists. I'm not aware of any political agenda that considers the wealth, products, content, power and influence of the news media, the entertainment industry, academia, and science to be 'decadent'.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
How and when did the news media, the entertainment industry, academia, and science gain a liberal bias? It doesn't make sense that corporate types and celebrities would support a political agenda that considers their wealth, products, content, materialism, power and influence to be "decadent". They've sold out to an ideology that if fully in control would send them to the gulag.
When people started hyper focusing on one but ignoring the other. Like how there is unfortunately both Rachel Maddow and Tucker Carlson, two hyper partisan barrels of toxic sludge disguised as humans. Or like how there is not just the left leaning and generally liberal rock n roll, but also the more conservative and right leaning country. (Though record labels sucked the soul out both. Not political, it's cheaper to flood the market with formulated rubbish that appeals to the most people). Left wing authors, right wing authors.
Hollywood there isn't much of a right wing presence, but is the drivel of Hollywood really worth it (the town it's is a great reflection of the illusion of and reality of Hollywood - a smoke and mirrors tourist trap where its all so overly grandiose and coveted pieces of sidewalk with a name and a star sit in front of an every day CVS - look around some more and you'll see the poverty in the city of a multibillion dollar industry)?
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
How and when did the news media, the entertainment industry, academia, and science gain a liberal bias? It doesn't make sense that corporate types and celebrities would support a political agenda that considers their wealth, products, content, materialism, power and influence to be "decadent". They've sold out to an ideology that if fully in control would send them to the gulag.
How and when did so many Christians gain a mammon bias? Whilst feeding their arrogance with exclusive ideas about 'we only have God' they have mostly surrounded themselves with wealth, object to community services such as free healthcare, medicine, education and subsistence for all minors, and I am totally amazed about how many are right-wing gun nuts! :)

As you know, Jesus (and the Baptist) was all about being for the working people, against the corruption of the high classes, a socialist......... which so many Christians turn around somehow in to 'socialism is satanic' .......

But not you? How do you feel about provision for all in the community, and special provision for all minors in everything?
 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
Academia has what may appear to be a left wing bias because academics are, by definition, educated to a high standard. Education liberates the mind, therefore educated people are more inclined to be liberal.

Of course there is such a thing as intellectual conservatism, but i suspect even Jordan Pietersen knows he's a walking oxymoron and only acts the part because, like Marlon Brando in The Wild One, he'd rebel against 'whatever you've got'.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Academia has what may appear to be a left wing bias because academics are, by definition, educated to a high standard. Education liberates the mind, therefore educated people are more inclined to be liberal.

Of course there is such a thing as intellectual conservatism, but i suspect even Jordan Pietersen knows he's a walking oxymoron and only acts the part because, like Marlon Brando in The Wild One, he'd rebel against 'whatever you've got'.
Ahh good old Jordan Peterson. My utmost respect to his credentials, but if you told me he was an Andy Kaufman type character designed to mock the right wing, I’d believe it.
 

Kooky

Freedom from Sanity
How and when did the news media, the entertainment industry, academia, and science gain a liberal bias? It doesn't make sense that corporate types and celebrities would support a political agenda that considers their wealth, products, content, materialism, power and influence to be "decadent". They've sold out to an ideology that if fully in control would send them to the gulag.
In order to counter the success Democrats had been enjoying in formerly Republican middle class populations, Ronald Reagan and other Republicans after him started courting Christian fundamentalists - who hitherto had been largely unpolitical or outright anti-political - by leaning into their anti-scientific, religiously framed rhetoric. The already anti-scientific, anti-academic rhetoric of extremist Christians was eventually adopted fully into the political toolbox of the Republican Party, aligning the fundamentalist mindset with the other factions of the Republican party and against the Democrats.

And now that anti-academic positions had become part of the Conservative mainstream, people would start framing academia as liberal.
 

Secret Chief

Very strong language
Much of the mainstream media is owned by people with decidedly rightwing views, hence their outlets push a rightwing agenda. Does anyone think Murdoch and the Barclay brothers to be anything other than out and out rightwingers?
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
How and when did the news media, the entertainment industry, academia, and science gain a liberal bias? It doesn't make sense that corporate types and celebrities would support a political agenda that considers their wealth, products, content, materialism, power and influence to be "decadent". They've sold out to an ideology that if fully in control would send them to the gulag.
They haven't. It is that Murdoch and others like him have been pumping out news with a right wing bias for so long that mugs like you think everyone else has gone left. :p
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
How and when did the news media, the entertainment industry, academia, and science gain a liberal bias? It doesn't make sense that corporate types and celebrities would support a political agenda that considers their wealth, products, content, materialism, power and influence to be "decadent". They've sold out to an ideology that if fully in control would send them to the gulag.
The news media "liberal bias" is largely a smokescreen promulgated by the right-wing corporatists that own most of the media. They go on so constantly about liberal bias that the public comes to accept it as true. But a historical look at the editorial positions of so called liberal papers like the New York Times reveals that their positions were usually supportive of the overall right wing agendas.

Academia and science tend to be biased by factual analysis. If the facts, historically, point to liberal policies being the most beneficial or successful, that's what scientists and academics will report. It's not a bias.
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
How and when did the news media, the entertainment industry, academia, and science gain a liberal bias? It doesn't make sense that corporate types and celebrities would support a political agenda that considers their wealth, products, content, materialism, power and influence to be "decadent". They've sold out to an ideology that if fully in control would send them to the gulag.
What liberal bias? Liberals do not believe what you say they do. You are confusing liberalism with communism.

Liberalism - Wikipedia.

Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on liberty, consent of the governed and equality before the law.[1][2][3] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but they generally support free markets, free trade, limited government, individual rights (including civil rights and human rights), capitalism, democracy, secularism, gender equality, racial equality, internationalism, freedom of speech, freedom of the press and freedom of religion.[4][5][6][7][8][9][10] Yellow is the political colour most commonly associated with liberalism.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
How and when did the news media, the entertainment industry, academia, and science gain a liberal bias?
The moment they asserted ideas that conservatives didn't like. To a conservative, to disagree is to be "biased".
It doesn't make sense that corporate types and celebrities would support a political agenda that considers their wealth, products, content, materialism, power and influence to be "decadent".
No, it doesn't. But of course that isn't actually happening, as liberalism is not characterized by any of those animosities.
They've sold out to an ideology that if fully in control would send them to the gulag.
That's absolutely absurd.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
You appear to have been indoctrinated in lies, there are plenty of societies that are liberal and do not have gulags.

Australia being one amongst other examples in my opinion.
Actually Australia does have immigration detention gulags, run by conservatives, which are called the Liberal party in Aust.
 

danieldemol

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Actually Australia does have immigration detention gulags, run by conservatives, which are called the Liberal party in Aust.
Well I haven't really read enough about what gulags are to know how they compare to detention centres i suppose.

Do they force migrants into labour in detention centres?
 

Brian2

Veteran Member
You appear to have been indoctrinated in lies, there are plenty of societies that are liberal and do not have gulags.

Australia being one amongst other examples in my opinion.

The language is confusing. The Liberal Party in Australia is in power and it is right wing.
But the extreme of right or left would not be good in power imo.
We are probably more to the right generally than the US.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
How and when did the news media, the entertainment industry, academia, and science gain a liberal bias? It doesn't make sense that corporate types and celebrities would support a political agenda that considers their wealth, products, content, materialism, power and influence to be "decadent". They've sold out to an ideology that if fully in control would send them to the gulag.


I think you need to check on the definition of liberalism before pointing fingers because you seem to have the idea that anything that doesn't fit the far right conservative bias is liberal. Maybe that's how liberalism is seen in your tiny corner of the world but remember there is much more outside the bit you know and love
 
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