Liberal bias.

[SomeRandom]

Best teacher I had, a philosophy teacher, she was so awesome and great at teaching the subject she would argue in defense of things she disagreed with. Most students didn't like her, because she would make you defend answers amd flesh them out, and probe them with opposing viewpoints. Even if something was misogynist, just saying it was bad wasn't good enough in her class and she expected students to explain why in the face of having it justified.

My cousin says that if your students don’t hate you at some point, you’re not doing it right lol
He uses the same technique though he’s an English teacher
I once made the mistake of offhandedly quoting Wilde in front of him. 3 drinks down and he’s getting me to defend the merits of The Picture of Dorian Gray lol

 

[Augustus]

That's what you claim you are argueing, but that's not what you argued, in truth: You argued that viewpoint diversity is good in disciplines that are

What I argued was that viewpoint diversity is always good within the limits of scholarly methodology.

I also argued some disciplines are more prone to ideological bias than others.

Did you actually read anything by the guy you keep citing as a source? Do you have any idea what the article you linked to earlier actually says?

If you produce a source that espouses certain viewpoints in support of your position, then you should be ready to either defend those viewpoints, or disavow them. You have done neither, only trued to distance yourself personally by claiming you're not a conservative, as if your personal political identity had any bearing on your position in this discussion (it doesn't).

It's fine to disavow your own sources, but that leaves us exactly at the start of our discussion, where I pointed out you were talking in platitudes and challenged you to be precise in your argument, and you produced conservative viewpoints to support your argument.

Arguing that viewpoint diversity is a good thing is not a "conservative" position. It's actually more of a (small p) progressive position if anything.

The problem is that people cluster beliefs around whatever is (somewhat arbitrarily) in vogue for "their" side and assume those who don't conform to their facile political dichotomy on any given issue as belonging to the "other side" and assuming they agree with everything else the "other side" is supposed to beleive in.

This further inhibits people's ability to look at issues rationally, and leads to lots of bad faith assumptions and misrepresentations.

After publicly committing to a position, people refuse to change their misconceptions even when their incorrect assumptions are pointed out.

Such are the joys of political tribalism.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

If you produce a source that espouses certain viewpoints in support of your position, then you should be ready to either defend those viewpoints, or disavow them. You have done neither, only trued to distance yourself personally by claiming you're not a conservative, as if your personal political identity had any bearing on your position in this discussion (it doesn't).

If I say "what profit is it for a man to gain the world but lose his soul" is it absolutely necessary for me to add a disclaimer that I'm not Christian and I disagree with Jesus on just about everything else or else you'll just assume I generally agree with Jesus and possibly a Christian?
Some have made that leap. I'ts rather absurd when they do.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Arguing that viewpoint diversity is a good thing is not a "conservative" position. It's actually more of a (small p) progressive position if anything.

It's more of sign of intelligence and an appreciation for learning and a desire for self enrichment and growth. To not take in opposing viewpoints is a festering stagnation of ignorance and stupidity. It has nothing at all to do with being conservative or liberal, left or right, or anything at all but being someone who wants to improve their mind.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

My cousin says that if your students don’t hate you at some point, you’re not doing it right lol

Another one I had that a lot of students hated, they hated him because he held students to standards of grammar, especially if you took his editing class.

 

[SomeRandom]

Another one I had that a lot of students hated, they hated him because he held students to standards of grammar, especially if you took his editing class.

Lol sounds like talking to an English teacher to me lmao!
My old History/English teacher took great delight in correcting our grammar. Part of me thinks it’s a game between the teachers to see who can scare the most students

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Lol sounds like talking to an English teacher to me lmao!
My old History/English teacher took great delight in correcting our grammar. Part of me thinks it’s a game between the teachers to see who can scare the most students

Hehehe.
One math teacher I had, people thought she was hard, but not really she just didn't use many words beyond strictly what was necessary for explaining how to do stuff, and she always said math is so much about math as it is learning a logical process and solving logical patterns, and, sure enough, there was a pattern/trick to getting problems on tests right even if you could solve the problem (otherwise you had to pay careful attention or it was very easy to accidentally select (these were multiple choice) a wrong but very similar looking answer (of often times an answer that reflected where a student mayhad a + or - backwards). It seems it was just tricky for most and especially the careless, but easy for the smart and clever, and intentionally so.

 

[Kooky]

I frequently draw comparisons between Fundamentalist Evangelicals and PC Liberals. [...]

Yes, I know. My point was not solely directed at Augustus.

 

[Kooky]

Lol sounds like talking to an English teacher to me lmao!
My old History/English teacher took great delight in correcting our grammar. Part of me thinks it’s a game between the teachers to see who can scare the most students

It's a terrible habit that creeps up on you when you teach languages, but there is really no point to it unless you're one of those poor souls trapped in the terrible misconception of prescriptive grammar.

 

[SomeRandom]

It's a terrible habit that creeps up on you when you teach languages, but there is really no point to it unless you're one of those poor souls trapped in the terrible misconception of prescriptive grammar.

Honestly my cousin corrects my Grammar just for kicks and I can tell lol