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"Lipstick Jihadis"

Djamila

Bosnjakinja
I'm sure most of you have heard the term "Lipstick Lesbian". I don't think it's an offensive term in and of itself, but it does imply a great deal of prejudice against those lesbians who wouldn't be included in the term.

Well, now there are "Lipstick Jihadis".

I realize for many of our members this is going to feel... linked... to the shootings in Salt Lake City - and that's fine, everyone is entitled to their opinions. I wouldn't post it if I felt that way, though, just so you know. I consider this something completely different.

There's a craze among Bosniak youth, just as there is among Croat and Serb youth, to associate with the most offensive manifestations of their people's nationalism. Croat kids will give the Nazi salute at football games, Serb kids will call themselves Cetniks all day long, and Bosniak kids will do this... act like jihadis.

The thing is, they don't really do it "right". Teenage Bosnian girls with their skimpy outfits and bright make-up will walk around with a bandana over their mouths, barely able to walk in their high heels, and call for jihad against a rival highschool one valley over - lol...

It hasn't led to any incidents of violence yet, except of course making that violence come sooner in situations it was probably going to happen anyway - football matches, for example.

But anyhow, what do you think about this? I always find it unusual when people associate with those who would kill them. Any normal Jihadi would cut off these girls' heads.

These people are from Kozarac, by the way - where my family comes from (both sides).

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N8AkokgF8s

So, what are your thoughts?
 

yuvgotmel

Well-Known Member
To me, it is the same as the questions/thoughts that I proposed on another thread, where I stated that I believe it is the people's own intentions that use religion for their own causes (and truest desires of their hearts).

It also reminds me of another thread that spoke about missionaries and how religion can transform the landscape of a society where it (the particular religion) takes root. However, it also seems to me, that the culture in where the religion takes root does continue to peek through the religion (in such the case as you mentioned in the OP).

Ultimately, I believe the religions are technically worthless, since people tend to do whatever they want to anyway, even to the point of bending religion to continue to suit their own desires.
 

MdmSzdWhtGuy

Well-Known Member
In a very real way it is just kids being kids, I think. The problem is, however, that they are "playing with fire" so to speak, by doing this. As you pointed out, any real jihadi would take pleasure in torturing and killing these "lipstick jihadi's" just as quickly as they would me.

B.
 

RevOxley_501

Well-Known Member
i see what you are talking about


we have a phenomenon in the US amongst black people, where they will use the dreaded N word with one another, but whites are not allowed to say it. They do it to soften the blow of the word i believe....take the bite out of the pain it causes.

I have been known to throw up the Seig Heil on occassion because as a communist i have been accused of being a Nazi, it takes that stigma away for me...
 

ayani

member
jamaesi said:
I think they're just kids who don't really understand what they are doing.

yeah, basically.

it's sad though, and strange. a waste of youth.

Mila, i was wondering. in many parts of the Muslim world it seems like young women are getting really into going hijab and learning more about Islam. is this the case is Bosnia today at all?
 

FatMan

Well-Known Member
It's all about rebellion and shock value. Two things youths have aspired for years to achieve:cool:
 

Djamila

Bosnjakinja
gracie said:
Mila, i was wondering. in many parts of the Muslim world it seems like young women are getting really into going hijab and learning more about Islam. is this the case is Bosnia today at all?

Yes, very much so. Immediately after the war you saw more women with hijab than you did without. That faded away at the same time our sense of gratitude to the Arab world faded away, as did the pro-American sentiment that was very common in Bosnia in those days.

Depleted uranium causing deformed babies here, another mosque's Bosnian murals whitewashed by Saudi "reconstruction" companies there... very quickly we returned to "We're Bosnian, and we're all each other has." Then the hijab all but evaporated.
 

Djamila

Bosnjakinja
MdmSzdWhtGuy said:
In a very real way it is just kids being kids, I think. The problem is, however, that they are "playing with fire" so to speak, by doing this. As you pointed out, any real jihadi would take pleasure in torturing and killing these "lipstick jihadi's" just as quickly as they would me.

B.

Playing with fire is the perfect description, in my opinion. :)

My sister and I also did it, when we were younger, but it had a completely different tone. "Jihadi Girls" was more or less the name of our little group of close friends, and that was the extent of it.

These kids today, though, are more involved than that.
 
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