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I am currently watching a show on Netflix called Schnitzel. I love to watch ethnic, religious shows. This one has me stumped a bit. I was wondering about the alcohol that they drink. I didn't know it was allowed in the Jewish religion. Can someone explain please?
Except that one time.(a status which doesn't exist anymore)
Wine has an important place in Judaism and is an essential part of Jewish ritual life and practice. Other alcohol is also allowed (in the right measure, at the right time/place). Only a Nazirite (a status which doesn't exist anymore) is forbidden to drink wine.
Drinking on Purim - Dalet Amot of Halacha - OU Torah
What led you to believe otherwise?
Ecclesiastes 9:7 Go ahead and enjoy your meals as you eat. Drink your wine with a joyful attitude, because God already has approved your actions.”
NT passages don't mean anything to Jews, and alcohol is not forbidden by most Christians. It is explicitly called for at Communion and Paul also writes to take a little wine to help cheer oneself.That's strange though to me because there are places in the Bible that says do not.
Galatians 5:19-21 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
“Then the LORD said to Aaron: ‘You and your sons are not to drink wine or other fermented drink whenever you go into the Tent of Meeting, or you will die. This is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come. You must distinguish between the holy and the profane, between the unclean and the clean.’” Leviticus 10:8-10
“But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, and idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard of a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.” 1 Corinthians 5:11
“Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.” 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
“Do not get drunk with wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit.” Ephesians 5:18
there are places that say yes and then there are places that says no and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
But you do realize that almost all of the sources you brought are from the NT, which is not scripture in Judaism?That's strange though to me because there are places in the Bible that says do not.
Galatians 5:19-21 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
“Then the LORD said to Aaron: ‘You and your sons are not to drink wine or other fermented drink whenever you go into the Tent of Meeting, or you will die. This is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come. You must distinguish between the holy and the profane, between the unclean and the clean.’” Leviticus 10:8-10
“But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, and idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard of a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.” 1 Corinthians 5:11
“Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.” 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
“Do not get drunk with wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit.” Ephesians 5:18
there are places that say yes and then there are places that says no and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
NT passages don't mean anything to Jews, and alcohol is not forbidden by most Christians. It is explicitly called for at Communion and Paul also writes to take a little wine to help cheer oneself.
But you do realize that almost all of the sources you brought are from the NT, which is not scripture in Judaism?
The only example from the Jewish Tanach is Leviticus, and if you were to re-read both the verse and the context, you would see that it describes a special situation: That priests are not to enter the Tabernacle after consuming wine.
was just wondering ...because being brought up in the faith that I had, and then seeing things in the OT and NT was contradictory to me. I did and then I didn't but when I did, I repented feelin sooooo guilty. Now, in Islam, no feeling of guilt whatsoever That's good enough for me
When one has a clear mind, one can worship how one is supposed to.
Why do I feel like this thread is yet another attempt to demonstrate some alleged similarity between Islam and previous Abrahamic religions despite what followers of said religions say to the contrary?
Most Jews and Christians I know consume alcohol without guilt. No need to worry.
But you do realize that almost all of the sources you brought are from the NT, which is not scripture in Judaism?
The only example from the Jewish Tanach is Leviticus, and if you were to re-read both the verse and the context, you would see that it describes a special situation: That priests are not to enter the Tabernacle after consuming wine.
Again, I was sincere in bringing this thread into discussion. What's wrong with that?
Nothing wrong with that as long as you at least acknowledge what other people say about their own beliefs.
I have observed the consumption of wine at seders (Passover means), and many social occasions involving close friends who are practicing Conservative Jews. There is quite a bit of difference between consumption of alcohol and the drunkenness cited in those scripture versus. One may responsibly and moderately consume alcohol without becoming drunk.
But you do realize that almost all of the sources you brought are from the NT, which is not scripture in Judaism?
The only example from the Jewish Tanach is Leviticus, and if you were to re-read both the verse and the context, you would see that it describes a special situation: That priests are not to enter the Tabernacle after consuming wine.