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Little confused...Are Jews allowed to drink alcohol or is it a sin?

MyM

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I am currently watching a show on Netflix called Schnitzel. I love to watch ethnic, religious shows. This one has me stumped a bit. I was wondering about the alcohol that they drink. I didn't know it was allowed in the Jewish religion. Can someone explain please?
 

Orbit

I'm a planet
I am currently watching a show on Netflix called Schnitzel. I love to watch ethnic, religious shows. This one has me stumped a bit. I was wondering about the alcohol that they drink. I didn't know it was allowed in the Jewish religion. Can someone explain please?

Ecclesiastes 9:7 Go ahead and enjoy your meals as you eat. Drink your wine with a joyful attitude, because God already has approved your actions.”
 

MyM

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Wine has an important place in Judaism and is an essential part of Jewish ritual life and practice. Other alcohol is also allowed (in the right measure, at the right time/place). Only a Nazirite (a status which doesn't exist anymore) is forbidden to drink wine.
Drinking on Purim - Dalet Amot of Halacha - OU Torah

What led you to believe otherwise?

I just assumed since I grew up a Christian and in that faith I grew up in I was taught alcohol was forbidden. Also in Islam, alcohol is forbidden. I just assumed it was forbidden. That is why I was taken back a bit. In Islam, what intoxicates you in big quantities is forbidden even in small quantities.

Wow what a story...to actually get drunk to the point of almost unawareness. That's just weird to me because when alcohol is involved, no one can tell what kind of effect it can have on one's mind and body if crossed the line...just like that rabbi that killed the rabbi...you get drunk to "remember" what happened? To me that is just a bit strange.

I just never knew this.
 

MyM

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Ecclesiastes 9:7 Go ahead and enjoy your meals as you eat. Drink your wine with a joyful attitude, because God already has approved your actions.”

That's strange though to me because there are places in the Bible that says do not.

Galatians 5:19-21 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

“Then the LORD said to Aaron: ‘You and your sons are not to drink wine or other fermented drink whenever you go into the Tent of Meeting, or you will die. This is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come. You must distinguish between the holy and the profane, between the unclean and the clean.’” Leviticus 10:8-10

“But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, and idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard of a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.” 1 Corinthians 5:11

“Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.” 1 Corinthians 6:9-10

“Do not get drunk with wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit.” Ephesians 5:18

there are places that say yes and then there are places that says no and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
 

Rival

Diex Aie
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That's strange though to me because there are places in the Bible that says do not.

Galatians 5:19-21 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

“Then the LORD said to Aaron: ‘You and your sons are not to drink wine or other fermented drink whenever you go into the Tent of Meeting, or you will die. This is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come. You must distinguish between the holy and the profane, between the unclean and the clean.’” Leviticus 10:8-10

“But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, and idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard of a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.” 1 Corinthians 5:11

“Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.” 1 Corinthians 6:9-10

“Do not get drunk with wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit.” Ephesians 5:18

there are places that say yes and then there are places that says no and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
NT passages don't mean anything to Jews, and alcohol is not forbidden by most Christians. It is explicitly called for at Communion and Paul also writes to take a little wine to help cheer oneself.
 

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
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Premium Member
That's strange though to me because there are places in the Bible that says do not.

Galatians 5:19-21 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

“Then the LORD said to Aaron: ‘You and your sons are not to drink wine or other fermented drink whenever you go into the Tent of Meeting, or you will die. This is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come. You must distinguish between the holy and the profane, between the unclean and the clean.’” Leviticus 10:8-10

“But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, and idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard of a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.” 1 Corinthians 5:11

“Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.” 1 Corinthians 6:9-10

“Do not get drunk with wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit.” Ephesians 5:18

there are places that say yes and then there are places that says no and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
But you do realize that almost all of the sources you brought are from the NT, which is not scripture in Judaism?
The only example from the Jewish Tanach is Leviticus, and if you were to re-read both the verse and the context, you would see that it describes a special situation: That priests are not to enter the Tabernacle after consuming wine.
 

MyM

Well-Known Member
NT passages don't mean anything to Jews, and alcohol is not forbidden by most Christians. It is explicitly called for at Communion and Paul also writes to take a little wine to help cheer oneself.

I understand that...but Leviticus is in the OT
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
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Why do I feel like this thread is yet another attempt to demonstrate some alleged similarity between Islam and previous Abrahamic religions despite what followers of said religions say to the contrary?
 

MyM

Well-Known Member
But you do realize that almost all of the sources you brought are from the NT, which is not scripture in Judaism?
The only example from the Jewish Tanach is Leviticus, and if you were to re-read both the verse and the context, you would see that it describes a special situation: That priests are not to enter the Tabernacle after consuming wine.


was just wondering ...because being brought up in the faith that I had, and then seeing things in the OT and NT was contradictory to me. I did and then I didn't but when I did, I repented feelin sooooo guilty. Now, in Islam, no feeling of guilt whatsoever :) That's good enough for me :)

When one has a clear mind, one can worship how one is supposed to.
 

Left Coast

This Is Water
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was just wondering ...because being brought up in the faith that I had, and then seeing things in the OT and NT was contradictory to me. I did and then I didn't but when I did, I repented feelin sooooo guilty. Now, in Islam, no feeling of guilt whatsoever :) That's good enough for me :)

When one has a clear mind, one can worship how one is supposed to.

Most Jews and Christians I know consume alcohol without guilt. No need to worry. :)
 

MyM

Well-Known Member
Why do I feel like this thread is yet another attempt to demonstrate some alleged similarity between Islam and previous Abrahamic religions despite what followers of said religions say to the contrary?

Again, I was sincere in bringing this thread into discussion. What's wrong with that?
 

MyM

Well-Known Member
But you do realize that almost all of the sources you brought are from the NT, which is not scripture in Judaism?
The only example from the Jewish Tanach is Leviticus, and if you were to re-read both the verse and the context, you would see that it describes a special situation: That priests are not to enter the Tabernacle after consuming wine.

yes, but i was answering the other person and I don't see what he believes in so didn't know so I just posted what I did :)
 

GardenLady

Active Member
I have observed the consumption of wine at seders (Passover means), and many social occasions involving close friends who are practicing Conservative Jews. There is quite a bit of difference between consumption of alcohol and the drunkenness cited in those scripture versus. One may responsibly and moderately consume alcohol without becoming drunk.
 

MyM

Well-Known Member
I have observed the consumption of wine at seders (Passover means), and many social occasions involving close friends who are practicing Conservative Jews. There is quite a bit of difference between consumption of alcohol and the drunkenness cited in those scripture versus. One may responsibly and moderately consume alcohol without becoming drunk.

I know that I used to drink. (don't anymore)

was weird to see that rabbis drink to get drunk. Just stooped me is all. I see the show I'm watching and it was really strange to see them drink alcohol so wanted to know :)
 

MyM

Well-Known Member
But you do realize that almost all of the sources you brought are from the NT, which is not scripture in Judaism?
The only example from the Jewish Tanach is Leviticus, and if you were to re-read both the verse and the context, you would see that it describes a special situation: That priests are not to enter the Tabernacle after consuming wine.


I also am wondering why all of the men wear that white shirt with the strings that hang down? Can you tell me the significance? I see all the religious ones wearing that. Also see most of them just wearing black and white all the time. And can you tell me about the curls on the side of the face and what does that symbolize?
 
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