Live action Disney movie Pocahontas?

[Estro Felino]

Well...as a Disney fan, I have to admit that lately, the quality of Disney live action movies has improved considerably.
The Little Mermaid was really, really good. Very realistic and profound. And very difficult, when the setting is under the sea...

But I was wondering: why they insist on magical stories, where the special effects are more and more challenging, while they avoid remaking a movie like Pocahontas?
No magic, no special effects: just historical characters.

Well...I do know why.
Because it's too controversial...to portray how the white colonizers were the bad guys...

I mean...just imagine this song with real characters:

 

[Revoltingest]

Would Elizabeth Warren play her?

 

[Estro Felino]

Would Elizabeth Warren play her?

Definitely.

 

[Estro Felino]

Would Elizabeth Warren play her?

Do you know what I admire the most about Americans?
That they know how to contain laughter.

We can't. I would have burst out laughing...making a terrible blunder...listening to Trump saying Pocahontas...with a straight face.

I have burst out laughing in the most formal occasions.

 

[Estro Felino]

Maybe because they did this movie in 2005...
but actually I consider the Disney movie much more entertaining.

 

[Debater Slayer]

Well...I do know why.
Because it's too controversial... [...]

Exactly. The original movie sugarcoats atrocious events by making it seem that most white settlers were friendly and didn't want to fight, when in reality they committed genocide. Whether or not some Native American tribes also committed atrocities toward one another is beside the point: the focal point here is whether this movie should be remade with that specific storyline in the present, and I believe it shouldn't be.

Also, as far as I know, the only written accounts we have about Pocahontas state that she was kidnapped, raped, and kept in captivity.

Pocahontas: Her Life and Legend - Historic Jamestowne Part of Colonial National Historical Park (U.S. National Park Service)

www.nps.gov

I don't see this as a movie with a plot that should be remade in 2023. I loved it as a child, but now I can definitely see why it's best left alone and in the past.

 

[Estro Felino]

Exactly. The original movie sugarcoats atrocious events by making it seem that most white settlers were friendly and didn't want to fight, when in reality they committed genocide. Whether or not some Native American tribes also committed atrocities toward one another is beside the point: the focal point here is whether this movie should be remade with that specific storyline in the present, and I believe it shouldn't be.

Also, as far as I know, the only written accounts we have about Pocahontas state that she was kidnapped, raped, and kept in captivity.

Pocahontas: Her Life and Legend - Historic Jamestowne Part of Colonial National Historical Park (U.S. National Park Service)

www.nps.gov

I don't see this as a movie with a plot that should be remade in 2023. I loved it as a child, but now I can definitely see why it's best left alone and in the past.

Actually the Disney movie is the only one that makes the spectator empathize with both worlds clashing with one another.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Would Elizabeth Warren play her?

Can she sing a song every five minutes?

 

[Revoltingest]

Can she sing a song every five minutes?

I searched youtube for recordings of her singing.
Found none.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I searched youtube for recordings of her singing.
Found none.

They may need to dub.

 

[Estro Felino]

I searched youtube for recordings of her singing.
Found none.

Thank God...

 

[Revoltingest]

They may need to dub.

Is Yoko Ono available?

 

[Twilight Hue]

Is Yoko Ono available?

Only if she can twirl in circles without falling down in a dress.

 

[Father Heathen]

Considering the actual historical events, a new "Pocahontas" would be in really bad taste.

Pocahontas - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Estro Felino]

Considering the actual historical events, a new "Pocahontas" would be in really bad taste.

Pocahontas - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Dinsey movies are not documentaries.
They re-interpret fairy tales, fables, stories, historical facts, so they can make sense to children.
So they are watchable by them.

That Disney movie from 1995 portrays a love story between two characters. Very idealized. Not historical. But the message conveyed is powerful: it's a rant against the religion of Greed and Capitalism that Europeans brought to the Americas. Whereas the Native Americans live in harmony with nature and listen to the spirits of the forests and the wind.

That's why they won't ever remake this movie. They have the tail of straw. Guilty conscience.

 

[Father Heathen]

Dinsey movies are not documentaries.
They re-interpret fairy tales, fables, stories, historical facts, so they can make sense to children.
So they are watchable by them.

Of course they're fictional, but some are still based on actual people and events. It's a misrepresentation of history and sanitized the tragic and sordid aspects of it.

That Disney movie from 1995 portrays a love story between two characters. Very idealized. Not historical. But the message conveyed is powerful: it's a rant against the religion of Greed and Capitalism that Europeans brought to the Americas. Whereas the Native Americans live in harmony with nature and listen to the spirits of the forests and the wind.

That's why they won't ever remake this movie. They have the tail of straw. Guilty conscience.

Nope. They wouldn't remake precisely for the reasons I've already stated. Your "nature good, greed bad" is a very common trope that hasn't gone anywhere.

Also, given that you love DeSantis and Trump, you should be a big fan of greed, capitalism, exploitation, etc.

 

[Estro Felino]

Nope. They wouldn't remake precisely for the reasons I've already stated. Your "nature good, greed bad" is a very common trope that hasn't gone anywhere.

Also, given that you love DeSantis and Trump, you should be a big fan of greed, capitalism, exploitation, etc.

I don't understand why you brought up US politics...
given that both parties are made up by greedy capitalists...

 

[Callisto]

I searched youtube for recordings of her singing.
Found none.

She's no Cissy Houston but it's nothing post-dubbing can't fix.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1182468435734695937

 

[Father Heathen]

I don't understand why you brought up US politics...
given that both parties are made up by greedy capitalists...

I brought it up because it's relevant to your display of cognitive dissonance. How you do claim to dislike greed and exploitation while simultaneously worshiping it's proponents? Are we supposed to ignore these discrepancies?

 

[Estro Felino]

I brought it up because it's relevant to your display of cognitive dissonance. How you do claim to dislike greed and exploitation while simultaneously worshiping it's proponents? Are we supposed to ignore these discrepancies?

Shall we speak of the dems' discrepancies?

Do you know how many dems I know in real life who claim to be the defenders of the rainbow flag, while in private they are the most transphobic people you will ever meet?