Losses too high: Russia’s army nears alarming mark

[Heyo]

Yes I agree. A classic sign of dictatorial thinking.

... speaking of "cartoon villain" ...

 

[Viker]

These sort of things happen when you are all offense and nothing about defense. I'm almost feeling sorry for the Russian forces, many of which are conscripts and many were likely reluctant from the start.

 

[Stevicus]

I'd have thought that this kind of information is too fluid, dynamic and uncertain for it to be the subject of a Wiki article.

I'm a bit alarmed by where this way of thinking about the war can lead, though. A war of attrition is the very worst that can be contemplated. And if it comes to that, the ultimate resources of Russia must surely outweigh those of Ukraine. NATO's own stockpiles of weaponry are getting low too, and our capacity to replenish them is not what it needs to be.

One thing, though, has changed on the Left in Britain. One hears no more talk of the supposedly evil nature of arms manufacturers. This has been an eye-opener. People are now coming to realise we do actually need to make these things, horrible though they may be.

Yes, I'm not sure how often they update their information or how reliable it is. It seems to be that way with every war, with various discrepancies in casualty estimates depending on which sources one uses and how they count them. I've seen wide ranges of estimates of WW2 casualties and other wars. Although I think the US military has striven for accuracy in that regard, at least as far as tracking our own dead and wounded.

I also agree that this appears to be turning into a war of attrition. I don't know if this is how they planned it, but it's already a bloodbath, and it doesn't appear to be getting any better. I don't know if either side would agree to a cease-fire, although they probably won't even be able to make a peace deal.

As for the Left, I can't say I've noticed any particular increase or decrease in criticism of arms manufacturers, although I guess it depends. Around here, much of the local economy depends on military spending and arms manufacturing, so few politicians, left or right, would criticize them too loudly. Personally, I've seen it more as a necessary evil. Obviously, the world is what it is, and for better or worse, wars have been won through industry, technology, resources, and arms manufacturers. Unless someone is a complete pacifist and believes in total non-violence (a position I would respect and honor), then I doubt few people on the Left would really deny this.

I think the beef that the Left has with arms manufacturers is more of a generalized observation. For example, one might read about civil wars and conflicts in Africa, Latin America, Middle East, etc. in places which don't have many arms manufacturers or any kind of armaments industry or technology on the level that western countries have. Yet somehow they have weapons that they don't make themselves, but they're getting from somewhere. But it's not really the arms manufacturers directly to blame, since it's really the governments which allow it and pay for it. Of course, in this case, they might make an exception, since the Russians are also major arms exporters, and because Ukraine is obviously on the defensive.

 

[Revoltingest]

I'll be honest. The last thing I want to see is Putin in a cowboy hat.

 

[JIMMY12345]

Sad deal for everyone involved.

Losses too high: Russia’s army nears alarming mark

The Ukrainian General Staff has now published its current figures on the Russian war of aggression in Ukraine (as of December 19, 2022). Accordingly, Russia has already lost 98,800 soldiers since the end of February – an increase of 520 compared to the previous day. As a result, Russian losses could break the 100,000 mark this week. There are also 5,969 armed vehicles, 4,592 vehicles and tankers, 2,988 tanks, 1,953 artillery systems, 1,657 unmanned aerial vehicles, 410 multiple rocket launchers, 281 airplanes, 264 helicopters, 653 cruise missiles, 212 air defense systems, 175 pieces of special equipment and 16 boats.

Losses too high: Russia’s army nears alarming mark

Its really dreadful both Russia and Ukraine are losing men and women.Putin's Government poses with photo's with big cats and judo poses.However the world regards them as cowards.Just like the Kurksk submarine debacle they shed crocodile tears.USA ,UK armies as well as Asia,Arabia and Africa fight man to man.They all mentally send white feathers to the Russian Government that lets innocent Mothers and children freeze with no water at Xmas.While the Russian Government feast in big palaces with the best food and wines.They make great communists.

 

[Revoltingest]

Hey, @Estro Felino....
Another Russian warship sunk.
Woohoo!

MSN

Excerpted...
Incredible footage showed the moment a dramatic attack on the £55,000,000 Black Sea missile ship Ivanovets.
The 184ft warship was hit by multiple drones off of annexed Crimea, and the fate of the crew is unknown.

 

[Dao Hao Now]

It's hard to tell, as different sources conflict with each other: Casualties of the Russo-Ukrainian War - Wikipedia

With the civilian deaths and the heavy losses on both sides, the final toll for this war could be in the hundreds of thousands.

Your link provided is for the time period prior to the invasion by Russia in February of 2022.

This link concerns the current situation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine?wprov=sfti1#

Of course in the midst of a conflict of this scale, it is very difficult to get precise stats, which tend to be over-reported and/or over-reported by those involved at the time.

Here are the estimates of concerning Russian forces starting from the Feb. 24 2022 invasion through late 2023 as per the link that concerns that time period.

Russian forces	315,000+killed and wounded	24 Feb 2022 – 30 January 2024	US (CIA)
88,800+killed	24 Feb 2022 – 19 October 2023	BBC News Russian
120,000killed, 170,000–180,000wounded	24 Feb 2022 – 18 August 2023	US

 

[Revoltingest]

More good news...

Ukraine eliminated "nine battalions" worth of Russian troops in 2024: Kyiv

Nearly two years of war has taken a heavy toll on Russia's soldiers, particularly around the Donetsk town of Avdiivka.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Twilight Hue]

Sad deal for everyone involved.

Losses too high: Russia’s army nears alarming mark

The Ukrainian General Staff has now published its current figures on the Russian war of aggression in Ukraine (as of December 19, 2022). Accordingly, Russia has already lost 98,800 soldiers since the end of February – an increase of 520 compared to the previous day. As a result, Russian losses could break the 100,000 mark this week. There are also 5,969 armed vehicles, 4,592 vehicles and tankers, 2,988 tanks, 1,953 artillery systems, 1,657 unmanned aerial vehicles, 410 multiple rocket launchers, 281 airplanes, 264 helicopters, 653 cruise missiles, 212 air defense systems, 175 pieces of special equipment and 16 boats.

Losses too high: Russia’s army nears alarming mark

After all those videos over there of Russia's massive losses and Ukraines solid domineering presence in the theater.

But it coincides with the tactics that were taught to me while I was in the military that Russias doctrines (at the time USSR) attacks in mass wave after mass wave until the enemy acquiesces.

 

[JIMMY12345]

... speaking of "cartoon villain" ...

Putin was almost a world class Olympic judo champion.He never show any emotion.He has a much bigger army and Russia is learning from its mistakes.Like Russian chess grand masters he will sacrifice.Ukraine has a small army.The men are tired and arms are old and supplies limited.

The only thing that will save Ukraine is if Trump who is seen as Putin's poodle in Europe.Stops USA arms is using interest from the £300 billion held in escrow.

 

[JIMMY12345]

Sad deal for everyone involved.

Losses too high: Russia’s army nears alarming mark

The Ukrainian General Staff has now published its current figures on the Russian war of aggression in Ukraine (as of December 19, 2022). Accordingly, Russia has already lost 98,800 soldiers since the end of February – an increase of 520 compared to the previous day. As a result, Russian losses could break the 100,000 mark this week. There are also 5,969 armed vehicles, 4,592 vehicles and tankers, 2,988 tanks, 1,953 artillery systems, 1,657 unmanned aerial vehicles, 410 multiple rocket launchers, 281 airplanes, 264 helicopters, 653 cruise missiles, 212 air defense systems, 175 pieces of special equipment and 16 boats.

Losses too high: Russia’s army nears alarming mark

Yeah but Russian arms factories are churning out at massive rates.They have the men.If Trump blocks Ukrainian arms no hope.

 

[Stevicus]

Yeah but Russian arms factories are churning out at massive rates.They have the men.If Trump blocks Ukrainian arms no hope.

This article notes that the Russians are ramping up their war production, while Ukraine is facing serious shortages in manpower and ammunition:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-outnumbered-outgunned-ground-down-by-relentless-russia-2024-02-21/

Artillery shells are also in short supply as a result of Western countries' inability to keep up the pace of shipments for a drawn-out war. On top of the U.S. supply pause, the EU has conceded it will miss its target to supply a million shells to Ukraine by March by nearly half.

Michael Kofman, a senior fellow and Russian military specialist at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, a Washington-based think-tank, estimated that Russia's artillery was firing at five times the rate of Ukraine's, a figure that Hryhoriy of the 59th Brigade also gave.

"Ukraine is not getting a sufficient amount of artillery ammunition to meet its minimum defensive needs, and this is not a sustainable situation moving forward," Kofman added.

Moscow now controls almost a fifth of Ukrainian territory including the Crimea peninsula it annexed in 2014, even if the frontlines of the war have largely stagnated in the last 14 months.

 

[JIMMY12345]

Both sides are short and using prisoners now.How long the Trump party bow down to Putin and block arms is the major factor.

 

[Revoltingest]

Putin has lost 450k soldiers and 13k tanks & vehicles, says UK intelligence

RUSSIA has lost an enormous 450,000 soldiers and 3,000 precious tanks in Ukraine, according to a UK tally. The humiliating blow for Putin means Moscow has lost an average of 560 troops a day since …

www.the-sun.com

With assistance from US renewed,
those figures should climb

 

[Twilight Hue]

Sad deal for everyone involved.

Losses too high: Russia’s army nears alarming mark

The Ukrainian General Staff has now published its current figures on the Russian war of aggression in Ukraine (as of December 19, 2022). Accordingly, Russia has already lost 98,800 soldiers since the end of February – an increase of 520 compared to the previous day. As a result, Russian losses could break the 100,000 mark this week. There are also 5,969 armed vehicles, 4,592 vehicles and tankers, 2,988 tanks, 1,953 artillery systems, 1,657 unmanned aerial vehicles, 410 multiple rocket launchers, 281 airplanes, 264 helicopters, 653 cruise missiles, 212 air defense systems, 175 pieces of special equipment and 16 boats.

Losses too high: Russia’s army nears alarming mark

That's the classic Russian MO.

They attack in mass, wave after wave.

 

[Revoltingest]

That's the classic Russian MO.

They attack in mass, wave after wave.

Russian military tactic....

 

[Jimmy]

If only some world leaders knew the truth about life imo. Such a shame. If they only knew, they’d realize how little time we have and how precious it is, imo. Unfortunately, instead they choose to adhere to a future that will never be and are driven by a past that never was imo. Some leaders lack wisdom and enlightenment. So sad…..

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Sad deal for everyone involved.

Losses too high: Russia’s army nears alarming mark

The Ukrainian General Staff has now published its current figures on the Russian war of aggression in Ukraine (as of December 19, 2022). Accordingly, Russia has already lost 98,800 soldiers since the end of February – an increase of 520 compared to the previous day. As a result, Russian losses could break the 100,000 mark this week. There are also 5,969 armed vehicles, 4,592 vehicles and tankers, 2,988 tanks, 1,953 artillery systems, 1,657 unmanned aerial vehicles, 410 multiple rocket launchers, 281 airplanes, 264 helicopters, 653 cruise missiles, 212 air defense systems, 175 pieces of special equipment and 16 boats.

Losses too high: Russia’s army nears alarming mark

It matters not.

People need to understand that while in civilized countries, such numbers would be considered a mega tragedy, in Russia leaders don't care at all. Humans are expendable. Life of citizens is worthless to them. They are mere pawns on their chess board.
They couldn't care less if they lost 5 or 5000.

 

[Revoltingest]

Breaking news!
Russia's losses aren't nearly high enuf.

 

[JIMMY12345]

Sad deal for everyone involved.

Losses too high: Russia’s army nears alarming mark

The Ukrainian General Staff has now published its current figures on the Russian war of aggression in Ukraine (as of December 19, 2022). Accordingly, Russia has already lost 98,800 soldiers since the end of February – an increase of 520 compared to the previous day. As a result, Russian losses could break the 100,000 mark this week. There are also 5,969 armed vehicles, 4,592 vehicles and tankers, 2,988 tanks, 1,953 artillery systems, 1,657 unmanned aerial vehicles, 410 multiple rocket launchers, 281 airplanes, 264 helicopters, 653 cruise missiles, 212 air defense systems, 175 pieces of special equipment and 16 boats.

Losses too high: Russia’s army nears alarming mark

There is now a very highly qualified Economist in charge of the the Russian army.
This means two things.Either the Russian army will be totally wiped out or total early victory (for Russia).As India and China are buying oil and arms production means Russian GDP outpaces UK and Europe.Probably be the latter.