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Love and the Value of Living

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
While I was passing a table in a coffee shop, I heard someone say, "Life without love is not worth living." I didn't catch more than that. But do you think they might have had a point? Why or why not?
 

`mud

Just old
Premium Member
It would depend entirely from where the love comes,
or not...maybe love is just a fact of life not entirely recognized.
Sometimes we don't recognize the meaning of the reasons at all,
maybe we don't always recognize the feeling of the source of the love.
The more I think of love, the deeper the feelings go.
I'm going to quit now....what is true love ?
~
'mud
 

Tiapan

Grumpy Old Man
As posted elsewhere...

Given the billions of years before we were born, our short life span and the billions of years that follow our death, this brief ability to be sentient and observe our universe is something amazing which should be appreciated even in the worst circumstances.

Remember no matter how bad things are there will always be someone worse off and someone better off.

Appreciate everyday because all days are beautiful.

So I think the comments you heard from the coffee shop sound ill conceived and naive.

Of course there comes a time at end of life where having been moved with a lifetime of amazing experiences we must eventually take our last glimpse of the universe hopefully with out pain before the plug is pulled.

Cheers
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
While I was passing a table in a coffee shop, I heard someone say, "Life without love is not worth living." I didn't catch more than that. But do you think they might have had a point? Why or why not?

Aye, I do think he has a very good point. I have in fact concluded in recent months that existing in a field of love is quite literally what makes life worthwhile.

I'm not particularly inclined to metaphysical speculations - I see little point in using concepts that as far as I know correspond to literally nothing that actually exists - so I thought about it in more concrete terms.

Love, in an unquestionably real sense, is the expression of good will towards other people. And there is no denying how much of a difference being loved can make for our psychological and sociological health.

I have actually concluded that this is what some people call (quite unproperly IMO) "free will": the feeling of security and of inherent rights, that we have options and some freedom ahead of us.

Despite the insistence of some, I fully believe that it is not at all something that all people have, much less on the same level. Quite on the contrary, it is a direct result of the gift of love and trust that people receive in very unequal quantities, not all that often due to actual personal merits.
 

Sabour

Well-Known Member
The only love that makes life worth living and makes that person happy and relaxed is the love of God. Other kinds of love won't satisfy living in peace no matter how strong love was
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
The only love that makes life worth living and makes that person happy and relaxed is the love of God. Other kinds of love won't satisfy living in peace no matter how strong love was

Sounds to me like you're speculating about kinds of love that you yourself have not actually experienced.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
How did you reach that conclusion, 0ne-answer? And why do you think not everyone agrees?
 

Sabour

Well-Known Member
You are obviously ruling out the possibility that there are kinds of love that you yourself have not experienced. What makes what you're doing anything less than folly?

Even if I didn't experience them all, I have observed enough people around and saw who were those living a satisfactory life and who are always asking for more and complaining about stuff although they are the ones who have everything one would dream of in this life
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
How can you possibly know that there are no other ways beyond those you personally know?
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Even if I didn't experience them all, I have observed enough people around and saw who were those living a satisfactory life and who are always asking for more and complaining about stuff although they are the ones who have everything one would dream of in this life

Nevertheless, that does not seem to me to qualify you as an authority on love.
 

Sabour

Well-Known Member
How can you possibly know that there are no other ways beyond those you personally know?

Based on the number of people I know and interact with and the number of stories I hear and observe and on the ideas and information I get exposed too, I would take my chances with making that claim I did.
 

Sabour

Well-Known Member
Nevertheless, that does not seem to me to qualify you as an authority on love.

I believe no one would qualify in the other person eyes to be authority about something. It rather seems as an opinion which one can further investigate if interested.
 

Alex_G

Enlightner of the Senses
While I was passing a table in a coffee shop, I heard someone say, "Life without love is not worth living." I didn't catch more than that. But do you think they might have had a point? Why or why not?

I would modify it to 'A life without the capacity for love is not worth living'
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Based on the number of people I know and interact with and the number of stories I hear and observe and on the ideas and information I get exposed too, I would take my chances with making that claim I did.

In that case, I am more than willing to say that you are bluffing and your claim is untrustworthy.
 
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