Jeremiahcp
Well-Known Jerk
If a person feels God's love is that evidence to that individual that God is real?
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Love Evidence of God?
- Thread starter Jeremiahcp
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Seems to me the answer could be either yes or no depending on how that individual wishes to view their experience.
That said, I have a hard time wrapping my head around this "God's love" idea as a Pagan. I understand things like Eros - gods which are essentially mythopoetic personifications of an aspect of reality (in this case love) - but the whole "God's love" thing I'm not sure I really get.
That said, I have a hard time wrapping my head around this "God's love" idea as a Pagan. I understand things like Eros - gods which are essentially mythopoetic personifications of an aspect of reality (in this case love) - but the whole "God's love" thing I'm not sure I really get.
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
I don't know. What does "god's love" feel like compared to how I feel about, say, finishing a good drawing or coming from outside on a beautiful day?
CogentPhilosopher
Philosophy Student
The real question is how do you know what is god's love?
CogentPhilosopher
Philosophy Student
I would get emotional about anyone dying in a horrific way.
That's part of it, believing Jesus had come in the flesh. Some people actually say Jesus was a myth, never did die on the cross really. So if you get emotional about it you must believe Jesus did die on the cross.
Jeremiahcp
Well-Known Jerk
Since it is an individual experience it would be up to the individual to decide if it was God's love they experienced or not. I am not sure how any outsider could address that issue, since they would have no access to the experience, and it not something that can be measured scientifically.
CogentPhilosopher
Philosophy Student
I was meaning if I knew that Yeshua died on the cross I would be somewhat upset.
Here is the thing, I get upset when Xion dies and is forgotten in Kingdom Hearts.
Does that make Xion real?
CogentPhilosopher
Philosophy Student
Please quote my post so I get an alert.
It just seems to me to be no different from Gaia's love, Khrisna's love, or Allah's love.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
To that individual, perhaps. On a purely personal, subjective level, anything could be considered "evidence" of God. If someone believes that there is a God, but that this God is a hateful, malicious being, you could equally argue that that person's individual experience of hate could be evidence to them of that God's existence.
It makes you potentially dishonest. You said you get upset when someone dies horribly, but so far I only see you get upset when a fictional character dies.
CogentPhilosopher
Philosophy Student
What the ****!
I cannot handle the amount of stupidity in that statement.
Maybe....just maybe...Since I had already said that I feel horrible when someone dies horribly that I did not think you would assume that I am lying because I don't have the same beliefs as you.
And maybe.....just maybe....I was using a fictional character as an example in order to illustrate how you can feel sorry for a character that you know is not real.
Jeremiahcp
Well-Known Jerk
"Please quote my post so I get an alert."
You assumed my post was a direct reply to you?
CogentPhilosopher
Philosophy Student
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
I mean, what is the difference in love experience between a Christian and Muslim outside the source? What does "christ-love" feel like compared to "creator-love"? Christians and Muslims are they the same? Different? If different, how so?
Jeremiahcp
Well-Known Jerk
I don't get it either, and if you asked me, I would venture a best guess as an emotional transference on an anthropomorphism, but if the person interprets it as God's love, then since it was not my experience and I can't measure it by any scientific or academic means, I really have little room to tell them what they felt. Which really means I have no solid standing to refuting their evidence of God even if that evidence means nothing to me.
Facts don't care about your feelings.
Feelings are all internalized. They provide no evidence of anything external to yourself.
Jeremiahcp
Well-Known Jerk
It was a general reply to the thread since a few people raised similar questions. Which is why I started the post with, "Since it is an individual experience it would be up to the individual to decide if it was God's love they experienced or not." This is subjective, it is not one of those things where you can argue away wth objective standards, so the determination of if it is or is not God's love will also be subjective.
CogentPhilosopher
Philosophy Student
My bad then.