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Love, Sin, Mindfulness

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
is love a state of mindfulness where sin can't manifest? those who act, live outside the law of love are sinners?


1 john 3
 

Ella S.

Well-Known Member
I do not believe so. Love is an emotion. Emotions are vestigial in man, because our nature is reason.

In fact, I might even say that love is often an impediment that blinds us from doing our duty.

In a general sense, emotions like love, sympathy, fairness, and compassion are useful in the sense that they help us understand why humanity evolved a sense of meaning and what the meaning we evolved is. However, these same emotions can be seen in less disciplined and less reasonable animals; they are really only a hint to the goals we should use our reason to pursue.

Being emotions, they are subject to extreme individual bias and a variety of cognitive distortions.
 
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MyM

Well-Known Member
is love a state of mindfulness where sin can't manifest? those who act, live outside the law of love are sinners?


1 john 3

According to the Bible, if you sin, you have transgressed the law.

Love is an emotion in the heart. How can one be held accountable for one's heart. No one can control that. But one's actions are a different story.


It's all very mumbo jumbo really if you continue reading. Sometimes the (verses) translations are really hard to even make out.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
According to the Bible, if you sin, you have transgressed the law.

Love is an emotion in the heart. How can one be held accountable for one's heart. No one can control that. But one's actions are a different story.


It's all very mumbo jumbo really if you continue reading. Sometimes the (verses) translations are really hard to even make out.
the law is very simple, thou shalt love.

the whole of the law is based on this one idea.

when you love, you aren't under sin. you are either within the law, or under it. those who don't love are under it.
 

MyM

Well-Known Member
the law is very simple, thou shalt love.

the whole of the law is based on this one idea.

when you love, you aren't under sin. you are either within the law, or under it. those who don't love are under it.


But the Bible isn't based just on LOVE. Jesus taught that you must love one another...but that doesn't mean he gave up all the other laws. Doesn't mean that you don't sin when you got love. That would be so ridiculous.
 

Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
I do not believe so. Love is an emotion. Emotions are vestigial in man, because our nature is reason.

In fact, I might even say that love is often an impediment that blinds us from doing our duty.

In a general sense, emotions like love, sympathy, fairness, and compassion are useful in the sense that they help us understand why humanity evolved a sense of meaning and what the meaning we evolved is. However, these same emotions can be seen in less disciplined and less reasonable animals; they are really only a hint to the goals we should use our reason to pursue.

Being emotions, they are subject to extreme individual bias and a variety of cognitive distortions.
Love isn't an emotion. That's a modern myth.
 

Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
But the Bible isn't based just on LOVE. Jesus taught that you must love one another...but that doesn't mean he gave up all the other laws. Doesn't mean that you don't sin when you got love. That would be so ridiculous.
Actually if you loved as perfect as God does you would never sin.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
But the Bible isn't based just on LOVE. Jesus taught that you must love one another...but that doesn't mean he gave up all the other laws. Doesn't mean that you don't sin when you got love. That would be so ridiculous.
jesus said a new commandment i give you, "To love one another as I loved you". John 13:34

that is the law. there is now no excuse for sin, knowing what the law is.


proverbs 10:12

1 peter 4:8

proverbs 16:6

the two greatest commandments are based on love
 

Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
How would you define love, then?

Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud

or rude. It does not demand its own way. It is not irritable, and it keeps no record of being wronged.

It does not rejoice about injustice but rejoices whenever the truth wins out.

Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance.

Prophecy and speaking in unknown languages and special knowledge will become useless. But love will last forever!

Now our knowledge is partial and incomplete, and even the gift of prophecy reveals only part of the whole picture!

But when the time of perfection comes, these partial things will become useless.

When I was a child, I spoke and thought and reasoned as a child. But when I grew up, I put away childish things.

Now we see things imperfectly, like puzzling reflections in a mirror, but then we will see everything with perfect clarity. All that I know now is partial and incomplete, but then I will know everything completely, just as God now knows me completely.

Three things will last forever—faith, hope, and love—and the greatest of these is love.

God defines love as a verb.
 
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