Love your neighborhood Jew as yourself

[Earthling]

So my dear Holocaust denier, where are the missing ~6 million Jews?
Are they on a trip?
Hiding?
Where is the rest of my family?


Tell me.

You aren't listening to what I'm saying. Did you do the math? Math doesn't lie, people lie. The first thing you need to do is look at that very simple math. Then you can begin to ask where the rest of your family is.

I can't make the claim that my family suffered horrible things. They were forced to walk a million mile march in two hours. Oh, the inhumanity of it. They had to carry their houses on their backs and walk a million miles, including over oceans, in an hour.

Even, and I want to make this absolutely clear, if I myself and millions of other people believe it for a hundred years it isn't true. It's a lie. And for the record, just because I question the obvious lie, doesn't mean that I deny some kind of an event that occurred and was given that name.

My advise to you is, stop trying to label me as some reprehensible faction of society in order to dismiss criticism rather than making any attempt at a reasonable reply and stop playing the victim for your own emotional gratification and sympathy because you stand face to face with me and expect me to believe a lie you will get no sympathy.

Got it?

 

[Flankerl]

You aren't listening to what I'm saying. Did you do the math? Math doesn't lie, people lie. The first thing you need to do is look at that very simple math. Then you can begin to ask where the rest of your family is.

I can't make the claim that my family suffered horrible things. They were forced to walk a million mile march in two hours. Oh, the inhumanity of it. They had to carry their houses on their backs and walk a million miles, including over oceans, in an hour.

Even, and I want to make this absolutely clear, if I myself and millions of other people believe it for a hundred years it isn't true. It's a lie. And for the record, just because I question the obvious lie, doesn't mean that I deny some kind of an event that occurred and was given that name.

My advise to you is, stop trying to label me as some reprehensible faction of society in order to dismiss criticism rather than making any attempt at a reasonable reply and stop playing the victim for your own emotional gratification and sympathy because you stand face to face with me and expect me to believe a lie you will get no sympathy.

Got it?

You didn't answer my question.
Millions of Jews that used to live in Europe kind of vanished during WW2.

Where are they?
Part of that was my family. What happened to my Great Grandparents? Their brothers and sisters? Their Cousins?

WHERE ARE THEY?


Oh and I don't want your sympathy. I want something far more sinister. Perhaps the universe will deliver in time.

 

[RabbiO]

Judaism people are human beings, it they are peaceful, then there is no harm in loving them as human beings.
Regards

Is there some reason you find it difficult to use the word "Jews" when you are referring to Jews? I know that I am not the first person to mention this to you, but you keep on doing it.

 

[Brickjectivity]

The first thing you need to do is look at that very simple math.

So this is a Math problem, not a sources problem or a journalistic conspiracy problem?

 

[Earthling]

So this is a Math problem, not a sources problem or a journalistic conspiracy problem?

One of the videos I gave, which, of course, none of you watched because it would be too easy to label them as antisemitism or holocaust deniers, included respected historians, including Jewish, that said the same thing I'm saying. One French historian who had published books on the subject referring to the gas chambers and, one day, something like 40 years later, had come to the conclusion that he had done so without ever having seen any evidence of these chambers and when he checked his notes he noticed that he hadn't provided one shred of documentation or evidence for it. He came to the conclusion that he had written about them (the gas chambers) for so many years in such detail because that is what he had always heard from everyone else.

If you honestly think that sources and journalistic integrity mean anything, just watch CNN for a couple days and consider these quotes by Winston Churchill and Napoleon Bonaparte.

History is written by the victors. Winston Churchill

History is a set of lies agreed upon. Napoleon Bonaparte

The first is always attributed to Churchill, but the source is actually unknown. That is how reliable history is.

Question everything.

 

[Earthling]

Is there some reason you find it difficult to use the word "Jews" when you are referring to Jews? I know that I am not the first person to mention this to you, but you keep on doing it.

Some people seem to think that the term Jew is a derogitory racial term, like ******, Abid, Abo, Arabush, Beaner, Bohunk, Bule, Cabbage Eater, Chankoro, Cheesehead, Chink, Cholo, Chug, Coolie, Coon, Cracker, Cushi, Dago, Dink . . . you get the picture. As you can see, though, it isn't listed at Wikipedia as such, so it can't be true. Link

 

[Earthling]

You didn't answer my question.
Millions of Jews that used to live in Europe kind of vanished during WW2.

Where are they?
Part of that was my family. What happened to my Great Grandparents? Their brothers and sisters? Their Cousins?

WHERE ARE THEY?


Oh and I don't want your sympathy. I want something far more sinister. Perhaps the universe will deliver in time.

Ahh, you want to have a pretend nice discussion, given that the universe doesn't deliver your request any time soon, eh?

I'll make you a deal. If you go through and read . . . actually read . . . each of the posts I've made in this thread I will answer your question. I've done it myself last night, it doesn't take long. You don't have to watch the videos or any links I gave, just read the posts and respond here that you have done so.

I'll even give you the links. Keep in mind most of these are single short sentences and the rest are 1 - 3 short paragraphs. It isn't War and Peace.

First post
Second post
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That's enough. I skipped a few that were irrelevant or off topic. Let me know when you've finished, or, in the unlikely event that you have already read them and aren't just assuming I'm a "denier" just let me know and we can continue.

In other words, this is probably goodbye.

 

[Brickjectivity]

You didn't answer my question.
Millions of Jews that used to live in Europe kind of vanished during WW2.

Where are they?
Part of that was my family. What happened to my Great Grandparents? Their brothers and sisters? Their Cousins?

WHERE ARE THEY?


Oh and I don't want your sympathy. I want something far more sinister. Perhaps the universe will deliver in time.

Obviously if you had no great grandparents (precisely eight of them) then you can't possibly exist. I guess I will have to put you onto ignore.

 

[Earthling]

Obviously if you had no great grandparents (precisely eight of them) then you can't possibly exist. I guess I will have to put you onto ignore.

Just because she doesn't exist? That's no reason to put someone on ignore.

 

[Brickjectivity]

One of the videos I gave, which, of course, none of you watched because it would be too easy to label them as antisemitism or holocaust deniers

I started watching the one, but it was crappy and 2.5 hours of drums, flashing highlighted unreadable text. Basically it was just like a hoax video, and you provided no sources but some dumb video.

 

[Flankerl]

Ahh, you want to have a pretend nice discussion, given that the universe doesn't deliver your request any time soon, eh?

I'll make you a deal. If you go through and read . . . actually read . . . each of the posts I've made in this thread I will answer your question. I've done it myself last night, it doesn't take long. You don't have to watch the videos or any links I gave, just read the posts and respond here that you have done so.

I'll even give you the links. Keep in mind most of these are single short sentences and the rest are 1 - 3 short paragraphs. It isn't War and Peace.

First post
Second post
Third post
Fourth post
Fifth post
Sixth post
Seventh post
Eighth post
Ninth post
Tenth post
Eleventh post
Twelfth post
Thirteenth post
Fourteenth post
Fifteenth post
Sixteenth post
Seventeenth post
Eighteenth post
Nineteenth post
Twentieth post
Twenty first post

That's enough. I skipped a few that were irrelevant or off topic. Let me know when you've finished, or, in the unlikely event that you have already read them and aren't just assuming I'm a "denier" just let me know and we can continue.

In other words, this is probably goodbye.

Sorry that I don't take someone seriously who has "Rothschild" in his nickname.

Also you didn't answer my question. Where are the missing people?


Where are the missing Jews?

 

[Earthling]

Sorry that I don't take someone seriously who has "Rothschild" in his nickname.

Also you didn't answer my question. Where are the missing people?


Where are the missing Jews?

First of all, I have answered your question. You would know that if you did as I asked you to do. A simple request. Read what I've said on the subject instead of addressing me as representing something you project upon me.

Secondly, if you don't take someone seriously with the nickname Rothschild, then what would be the point in your asking me the question in the first place?

 

[Kenny]

Sorry that I don't take someone seriously who has "Rothschild" in his nickname.

Also you didn't answer my question. Where are the missing people?


Where are the missing Jews?

They were murdered in gas chambers; mass graves having been shot and then buried; many just died from starvation and disease and probably many other ways including experimentations by scientists.

These are verifiable through history, documentaries (made by Germans), and other sources.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Do you actually think that Hitler was a Christian?

Is there any reason to believe he wasn't? He certainly professed a faith in Jesus as his Saviour.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Christianity isn't a religion of orthopraxy, but rather a religion of orthodoxy--in other words a Christian is defined by what they believe, not by what they do.

^ This

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Great! And being a Christian, I believe I know a thing or two about Christianity and can clarify that a Christain is not defined by what they believe but by what they DO.

Hold up. When did this change? The major Christian denominations (in the West, at least) have been preaching salvation by faith alone for centuries (Ephesians 2:8-9).

Atonement theories such as 'satisfaction' and 'penal substitution' have been argued by theologians since Anselm of Canterbury (11th Century) and these are both examples of salvation through faith alone.

Further, Christianity is defined as an orthodox religion to the extent that many Churches identify as Orthodox Churches, not orthoprax ones. It would seem that belief in Jesus is more important than good deeds in determining the fate of one's soul.

 

[Kenny]

Is there any reason to believe he wasn't?

Yes. Unless you want to be myopic or mine quote.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Yes. Unless you want to be myopic or mine quote.

He professed a belief in Jesus as his Saviour. That is enough to define oneself as a Christian.

 

[Kenny]

He professed a belief in Jesus as his Saviour. That is enough to define oneself as a Christian.

Nope! You will have to do much better than that.

Matt 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Luke 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

He professed a lot of things including "cleaning up the Bible"

“At thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, I no longer believed in anything, certainly none of my friends still believed in the so-called communion, only a few totally stupid honor students!"
Brigitte Hamann, Hitler’s Vienna (New York: Oxford University Press, 1999), 19

“Purification of the Bible—that which is consistent with our spirit. Second result: critical examination of the remainder.” Steigmann-Gall, Holy Reich, 27.

“I can imagine Christ as nothing other than blond and with blue eyes, the devil however only with a Jewish grimace." Steigmann-Gall, Holy Reich, 37

You have to go beyond just parroting what others say.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Nope! You will have to do much better than that.

Matt 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Luke 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

He professed a lot of things including "cleaning up the Bible"

“At thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, I no longer believed in anything, certainly none of my friends still believed in the so-called communion, only a few totally stupid honor students!"
Brigitte Hamann, Hitler’s Vienna (New York: Oxford University Press, 1999), 19

“Purification of the Bible—that which is consistent with our spirit. Second result: critical examination of the remainder.” Steigmann-Gall, Holy Reich, 27.

“I can imagine Christ as nothing other than blond and with blue eyes, the devil however only with a Jewish grimace." Steigmann-Gall, Holy Reich, 37

You have to go beyond just parroting what others say.

Ephesians 2:8-9: "8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast."

You could try reading the point I raised in reply #478 where I point out that major (Western) Christian denominations have been preaching salvation through faith alone as far back as the 11th Century.

There's also the fact that Christianity is an orthodox faith - meaning what one believes matters more than their actions.