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Loving each and every living being.

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
I kind of did :) i went offline for some time this summer, focused on grounding my being.
I never went offline completely but I cut back on my time spent here for a few months. I shifted my focus for a while but then I decided to start posting more again. You came back right about when I made that decision. :)
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
This is perfectly stated, and I do not believe God gave us hate and vengeance if it has no proper usage or good or virtuous usages. This is one of the pivotal points @Bird123 and I disagree upon. He sees its given simply to let us learn from the mistake of using it, but that it has no proper use.

The scary thing of it having a place in virtue, is that God is going to excel in it more then others, in it's proper place. This is scary thing about his retributive justice.

God does not punish. God educates. When actions return to show us what our actions mean, Understanding, not payback will always be the goal.

God has never ever been one to be feared. Fear is generated by not knowing. If one has fear, one should concentrate on Discovery of the real truth rather than base one's knowledge on the beliefs of others.

As for Hate and Vengeance, carry on, when you understand all sides through God's lessons, we will no longer disagree what the best choices really are.

That's what I see. It's very clear!!
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
How is that even possible you might ask? Some will think "How can you say that, look at Hitler, or Saddam or others who do only evil toward others????

No no, you do not love their actions or orders they gave. You can love them for teaching you how not to behave or be toward others. You love the lesson each person can give you, both the good ones and the bad ones.

The good ones teach you what you can become. What to do with your life.
The bad ones teach you how to not become. What not to do with your life
Well, loving all of non-human life seems to be a lot easier than loving all humans - for most people at least - even if not readily achieved. But that presumably comes from simply accepting that non-human life have their purposes - and whatever the results we see - such that we can accept that what happens is just natural for all such and within their environment or ecosystem.

It might be so for loving all other humans too - if we then assumed that humans are often constrained or driven down some particular path (and often not by choice), and as to such not meeting with the normal approval that we would all hope for - but this cannot be proven to be true. That is, that some are destined for what we all might consider to be 'bad' or 'evil' lives, and such not being their responsibility alone.

I don't know the answers to such, but hating is something more likely to rebound on the hater in my view, even if it can be impossible to love so many who seem more intent on destroying than creating. So, for me at least, I try not to hate others - as mentioned about Trump, he came from his background, and likewise for Putin - and as for loving, well I can express how I feel about the human race in general - as being what we are and simply accepting such. Given I don't believe some God fashioned us with all our flaws and such being some kind of test.
 
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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Painful experiences no doubt makes us stronger and more cautious of our surroundings.
It's how nature works Brutal and beautiful.

I find love to be as useful a tool as much as hate is.

It all depends on how it's deployed and used to strike a proper balance and keep things in harmony as much as humanly possible.



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Yerda

Veteran Member
Hi, @Seeker of White Light. I'm not able to love all beings all the time. I do admire people that can pull off compassion in difficult circumstances.

I watched a documentary about parents who forgave the men who had murdered their children. The parents got a kind of release, they didn't have to hold on to hate and desire for revenge and it lifted them and helped with the grief of losing a child. The murderer got a chance to understand just what they had done. To the victim and their families. To acknowledged the immense shame and regret they experienced at what they had done to the people who had chosen to forgive them.

It was remarkable and heartbreaking. I still don't understand how the parents could have the strength and the compassion to do that.

It's how nature works Brutal and beautiful.

I find love to be as useful a tool as much as hate is.

It all depends on how it's deployed and used to strike a proper balance and keep things in harmony as much as humanly possible.



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You think of love and hate as tools? I don't know if I've ever heard that before.

I do feel hateful sometimes but I never benefit from it. It's like having an emotional 'fever' for me and to heal I have to let it go.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Hi, @Seeker of White Light. I'm not able to love all beings all the time. I do admire people that can pull off compassion in difficult circumstances.

I watched a documentary about parents who forgave the men who had murdered their children. The parents got a kind of release, they didn't have to hold on to hate and desire for revenge and it lifted them and helped with the grief of losing a child. The murderer got a chance to understand just what they had done. To the victim and their families. To acknowledged the immense shame and regret they experienced at what they had done to the people who had chosen to forgive them.

It was remarkable and heartbreaking. I still don't understand how the parents could have the strength and the compassion to do that.

You think of love and hate as tools? I don't know if I've ever heard that before.

I do feel hateful sometimes but I never benefit from it. It's like having an emotional 'fever' for me and to heal I have to let it go.
When anger or even hate arise in my mind, I try as quick as I can to understand why, and how I can reduce it or even let it fully go.
I am not able to never feel anger, but trying to understand why it happens.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Hi, @Seeker of White Light. I'm not able to love all beings all the time. I do admire people that can pull off compassion in difficult circumstances.

I watched a documentary about parents who forgave the men who had murdered their children. The parents got a kind of release, they didn't have to hold on to hate and desire for revenge and it lifted them and helped with the grief of losing a child. The murderer got a chance to understand just what they had done. To the victim and their families. To acknowledged the immense shame and regret they experienced at what they had done to the people who had chosen to forgive them.

It was remarkable and heartbreaking. I still don't understand how the parents could have the strength and the compassion to do that.

You think of love and hate as tools? I don't know if I've ever heard that before.

I do feel hateful sometimes but I never benefit from it. It's like having an emotional 'fever' for me and to heal I have to let it go.
I think emotions are evolved survival mechanisms like fear and bravado are. Love and hate included.
 

River Sea

Well-Known Member
To both your questions i can say Yes, I have seen White Light within people, and I seen it radiating outward from them in to this world.
I have also seen the fire from hell.

Thank you for sharing to me; that you also seen white light within people and radiating outward - however I hadn't seen fire from hell., can you explain more what that means fire from hell? So I can comprehend., for this I hadn't seen fire from hell?

I comprehend fire as spiritual food., so I don't comprehend fire from hell? Can you help me understand?
 
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Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Thank you for sharing to me; that you also seen white light within people and radiating outward - however I hadn't seen fire from hell., can you explain more what that means fire from hell? So I can comprehend., for this I hadn't seen fire from hell?

I comprehend fire as spiritual food., so I don't comprehend fire from hell?
I have seen evil from hell, that is what fire from hell means. It affected me mentally for some time and it leads toward destruction of light from within.
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Staff member
Premium Member
How is that even possible you might ask? Some will think "How can you say that, look at Hitler, or Saddam or others who do only evil toward others????

No no, you do not love their actions or orders they gave. You can love them for teaching you how not to behave or be toward others. You love the lesson each person can give you, both the good ones and the bad ones.

The good ones teach you what you can become. What to do with your life.
The bad ones teach you how to not become. What not to do with your life
It irks me a bit when people overuse the word 'love'. I think you can appreciate everyone's existence, however 'love' is a very strong word. It's far too late, the word has been overused for decades now, but it'd really be nice to have that word actually mean something again.
 

JustGeorge

Imperfect
Staff member
Premium Member
It irks me a bit when people overuse the word 'love'. I think you can appreciate everyone's existence, however 'love' is a very strong word. It's far too late, the word has been overused for decades now, but it'd really be nice to have that word actually mean something again.

I think it would be nice if we had different words in English for different kinds of love. One does not love pizza in the same way they love their relatives.

I hope.
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Staff member
Premium Member
I think it would be nice if we had different words in English for different kinds of love. One does not love pizza in the same way they love their relatives.

I hope.
That's a good point!

Although I wouldn't be against marrying pizza.
 

JustGeorge

Imperfect
Staff member
Premium Member
"Until death do us part... or the cheese becomes spoiled, whichever happens first."

Well... I hope you see to becoming one with that pizza before the cheese spoils, as opposed to after...

Otherwise the 'divorce' is going to be mighty uncomfortable...
 
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