Lunatics taking over the asylum?

[Mock Turtle]

Taliban bans women from ‘hearing other women’s voices’

Militant group is ‘waging an all-out war against us’, says one Kabul resident in response to the bizarre rule

www.telegraph.co.uk

The Taliban has banned women from hearing other women’s voices in its latest attempt to impose a hardline version of Islamic law on Afghanistan. In a rambling voice message on Monday, the country’s minister for the promotion of virtue and prevention of vice announced the bizarre new restriction on women’s behaviour. Although precise details of the Taliban’s ruling are unclear, Afghan human rights activists have warned it could mean women are effectively banned from holding conversations with one another. In his message, minister Khalid Hanafi said: “Even when an adult female prays and another female passes by, she must not pray loudly enough for them to hear.” “How could they be allowed to sing if they aren’t even permitted to hear [each other’s] voices while praying, let alone for anything else.” He said these are “new rules and will be gradually implemented, and God will be helping us in each step we take”. As the Taliban has banned living beings from being shown on television, his message was delivered via voice recording instead of a television broadcast.

“How are women who are the sole providers for their families supposed to buy bread, seek medical care or simply exist if even their voices are forbidden?” one activist said in response. “Whatever he says is a form of mental torture for us,” an Afghan woman in Kabul told The Telegraph. “Living in Afghanistan is incredibly painful for us as women. Afghanistan is forgotten, and that’s why they are suppressing us – they are torturing us on a daily basis.” “They say we cannot hear other women’s voices, and I do not understand where these views come from,” she added. g an all-out war against us’, says one Kabul resident in response to the bizarre rule. Since taking power in Aug 2021, the Taliban has systematically restricted women’s rights in Afghanistan. Women have already been ordered to cover their faces “to avoid temptation and tempting others” and refrain from speaking in the presence of unfamiliar men who are not husbands or close relatives. “If it is necessary for women to leave their homes, they must cover their faces and voices from men” and be accompanied by a “male guardian”, according to the rules approved by the Taliban’s supreme leader. Afghan women have also been ordered not to speak loudly inside their homes, to prevent their voices from being heard outside. Women who defy the new rules will be arrested and sent to prison, the Taliban said.'

Come on all Muslims on RF, defend or attack this, given that the vast majority of non-Muslims will likely see the attitudes and edicts from the Taliban as being probably the worst evidence of backward-sliding, as to progress, from virtually any nation. But of course you can simply use the culture argument and divorce religion from this - if you think this at all believable.

 

[Stevicus]

Taliban bans women from ‘hearing other women’s voices’

Militant group is ‘waging an all-out war against us’, says one Kabul resident in response to the bizarre rule

www.telegraph.co.uk

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Come on all Muslims on RF, defend or attack this, given that the vast majority of non-Muslims will likely see the attitudes and edicts from the Taliban as being probably the worst evidence of backward-sliding, as to progress, from virtually any nation. But of course you can simply use the culture argument and divorce religion from this - if you think this at all believable.

I don't know, but looking at these pictures of Afghanistan from the 1970s, it's quite a contrast from today.

Of course, Afghanistan is a country which has gone through a great deal of hell in the past several decades, but I'm not sure that all Muslims are the same in this regard. I recall speaking with a young lady from Mauritania, who was wearing a t-shirt and jeans. Mauritania is a Muslim-majority country, and she was Muslim. But she said that "as long as you have Islam in your heart," one's attire was not as important.

I'm not sure what drives some of these regimes to become so fanatical and oppressive in these beliefs, nor have I ever understood why our own governments have enabled and supported these regimes.

 

[Kathryn]

I sure hope they don't want this to be the law anywhere else.

 

[SalixIncendium]

Before I clicked the title, I was sure this thread was about the RF staff...

 

[Heyo]

I sure hope they don't want this to be the law anywhere else.

It seems the Afghan Taliban are content with it being law in Afghanistan.
But there are American Taliban who like to take away your rights and liberties. You'll see in a week how popular such thinking is.

 

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It is interesting combination, no high school, and no male doctors. Are the female doctors without education, or are the ladies without doctors?

 

[Mock Turtle]

It is interesting combination, no high school, and no male doctors. Are the female doctors without education, or are the ladies without doctors?

Yes, it is a bit silly to cripple half of the population as to education, and thus limiting what they could contribute to society. Perhaps the Taliban just haven't thought this through.

 

[Twilight Hue]

It seems the Afghan Taliban are content with it being law in Afghanistan.
But there are American Taliban who like to take away your rights and liberties. You'll see in a week how popular such thinking is.

Coming from a Communist, I'm not too concerned just who is the actual American Taliban in question is.

 

[Mock Turtle]

No Muslims taking the bait then, or who will just not criticise other Muslims, perhaps secretly hoping that the Taliban sickness should spread wider. Given that countries like Iraq, Iran, many others no doubt might be halfway with the Taliban - as to interpreting the Qur'an so that such mostly benefits males. But still probably the main reason as to why Islam will never dominate, even if they try to do so by population increasing and strict teaching or indoctrination of children.

 

[Altfish]

Taliban bans women from ‘hearing other women’s voices’

Militant group is ‘waging an all-out war against us’, says one Kabul resident in response to the bizarre rule

www.telegraph.co.uk

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Come on all Muslims on RF, defend or attack this, given that the vast majority of non-Muslims will likely see the attitudes and edicts from the Taliban as being probably the worst evidence of backward-sliding, as to progress, from virtually any nation. But of course you can simply use the culture argument and divorce religion from this - if you think this at all believable.

Sounds a bit like Project 25

 

[Mock Turtle]

Sounds a bit like Project 25

Should be more obviously dumb though, if one hasn't already been converted to stupidity.

 

[Link]

Salam

Just look at the lifestyle of Khadija (a) who was Prophet's (s) first wife. It's said were it not for her wealth and Ali's (a) fighting, Islam would never been established.

She hired even Mohammad (s).

Unfortunately, Taliban interpretation is very extreme. Their interpretation would even condemn Khadija (a) lifestyle. It makes no sense.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Taliban bans women from ‘hearing other women’s voices’

Militant group is ‘waging an all-out war against us’, says one Kabul resident in response to the bizarre rule

www.telegraph.co.uk

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Come on all Muslims on RF, defend or attack this, given that the vast majority of non-Muslims will likely see the attitudes and edicts from the Taliban as being probably the worst evidence of backward-sliding, as to progress, from virtually any nation. But of course you can simply use the culture argument and divorce religion from this - if you think this at all believable.

Welcome to one of the reasons I actually detest religion. Yes, the Taliban is over-the-top extreme, but other religions have their proscriptions, as well -- as any LGBTQ+ person around the world can tell you.

 

[Mock Turtle]

Salam

Just look at the lifestyle of Khadija (a) who was Prophet's (s) first wife. It's said were it not for her wealth and Ali's (a) fighting, Islam would never been established.

She hired even Mohammad (s).

Unfortunately, Taliban interpretation is very extreme. Their interpretation would even condemn Khadija (a) lifestyle. It makes no sense.

I'm probably not looking in the right places but other Muslims don't seem to be that vocal concerning the Taliban, or as to doing anything so as to change attitudes there. It just seems so wasteful and stifling, let alone controlling for the poor females of Afghanistan. But many religions have an equivalent as to being extreme compared with the majority, and I'm sure most people don't judge Muslims in general by the Taliban.

 

[Heyo]

I'm probably not looking in the right places but other Muslims don't seem to be that vocal concerning the Taliban,

If you are looking in the MSM, you'd probably find little. A Muslim organization condemning another Muslim organization isn't exactly top news.

 

[Stevicus]

If you are looking in the MSM, you'd probably find little. A Muslim organization condemning another Muslim organization isn't exactly top news.

I agree, although I would wonder, why not? Christians have often criticized other Christians if their views don't align. And there are different sects in Islam which don't see eye to eye and sometimes fight with each other. You'd think there would be more public criticism at least on that basis. Or, perhaps there is, but the Western media might have their reasons for clamping down on and disallowing such coverage. Maybe they want their audiences to think that all Muslims are alike.

 

[Heyo]

I agree, although I would wonder, why not? Christians have often criticized other Christians if their views don't align. And there are different sects in Islam which don't see eye to eye and sometimes fight with each other. You'd think there would be more public criticism at least on that basis. Or, perhaps there is, but the Western media might have their reasons for clamping down on and disallowing such coverage. Maybe they want their audiences to think that all Muslims are alike.

I remember a documentation from years ago where the journalists looked for statements and found them. Whenever something bad happened in the Muslim community or in Muslim countries, German Mosques and organizations had put out press releases condemning the actions, but nothing made it into the news.