Madnesss: WAS JESUS INSANE ?

[Paranoid Android]

I have made the statement that Jesus was mentally ill. I base my statement on this:

Say Jesus was alive today, 2015. And say he was making statements that he was God, he created the universe, e.t.c. Now my question: WHERE WOULD HE BE ?

Answer: A MENTAL HOSPITAL

Those statements, made in modern times, probably would lead Jesus to a 72 hour hold in a mental hospital. The psychiatrist more than likely would diagnose him with Bipolar Disorder.

I understand there are people that would disagree with me. If you are going to say that Jesus was mentally well, what do you base that on ? Emotion ? Emotion does not work on logical principles. Faith ? Faith eshews using reason and universal principles to judge people. If Jesus was your BROTHER, would you ENCOURAGE his delusions or try to restore him to sanity ?

YOU DECIDE.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I have made the statement that Jesus was mentally ill. I base my statement on this:

Say Jesus was alive today, 2015. And say he was making statements that he was God, he created the universe, e.t.c. Now my question: WHERE WOULD HE BE ?

Answer: A MENTAL HOSPITAL

Those statements, made in modern times, probably would lead Jesus to a 72 hour hold in a mental hospital. The psychiatrist more than likely would diagnose him with Bipolar Disorder.

I understand there are people that would disagree with me. If you are going to say that Jesus was mentally well, what do you base that on ? Emotion ? Emotion does not work on logical principles. Faith ? Faith eshews using reason and universal principles to judge people. If Jesus was your BROTHER, would you ENCOURAGE his delusions or try to restore him to sanity ?

YOU DECIDE.

If you want to get technical, people who are admitted into the mental health hospital are

1. In harm to themselves

2. In harm to others (due to mental illness)

3. Cant take care of oneself as a result of a mental illness.

Jesus did not commit suicide. He didnt murder anyone. He took care of others as well as Himself.

If anything, in todays period, Hed be (well, where I live), would be ignored as they do with the homeless. If He is causing havac, the police would probably give him a warning or arrest.

If no one took Him seriously and He wasnt indangering anyone, Himself, and can take carw of Himself, even IF He had a mental illness it wouldnt warent a hospital stay.

Pills, maybe. Therapy, probably. Nothing more.

 

[RedDragon94]

Say Jesus was alive today, 2015.

He is.

And say he was making statements that he was God, he created the universe, e.t.c. Now my question: WHERE WOULD HE BE ?

I make statements like Jesus created the universe all the time, they haven't locked me up yet.

If you are going to say that Jesus was mentally well, what do you base that on ?

The fact that he cast seven demons out of someone is enough for me.

Those statements, made in modern times, probably would lead Jesus to a 72 hour hold in a mental hospital.

Actually they lead Jesus to his execution, and he did not recant those statements but was dead three days and then God raised him back to life. That tells you something about Jesus' uniqueness. What other religious leader has ever been raised from the dead by God?

 

[Awoon]

Was Rhett Butler INSANE for marrying Scarlet O'Hara ?

 

[Paranoid Android]

Yet the fact remains that people thought he was possessed. That is what people called mentally ill people his day. Ergo, JESUS=INSANE.

 

[Paranoid Android]

Was Rhett Butler INSANE for marrying Scarlet O'Hara ?

I can't judge the gentleman, Was he suicidal or homicidal ?

 

[Paranoid Android]

He is.

I make statements like Jesus created the universe all the time, they haven't locked me up yet.

Perhaps they should. We do not know that from an empirical point of view.
The fact that he cast seven demons out of someone is enough for me.

And you SAW IT ? Oh, then you READ IT. Secondhand testimony is unreliable and not allowed in courts of law.

Actually they lead Jesus to his execution, and he did not recant those statements but was dead three days and then God raised him back to life. That tells you something about Jesus' uniqueness. What other religious leader has ever been raised from the dead by God?

Remember, they SAID he rose again, we have no verifiable or empirical proof of his resurrection. Without that, we have to assume that is nonsense they wrote to sell Jesus as God.

 

[psychoslice]

If you want to get technical, people who are admitted into the mental health hospital are

1. In harm to themselves

2. In harm to others (due to mental illness)

3. Cant take care of oneself as a result of a mental illness.

Jesus did not commit suicide. He didnt murder anyone. He took care of others as well as Himself.

If anything, in todays period, Hed be (well, where I live), would be ignored as they do with the homeless. If He is causing havac, the police would probably give him a warning or arrest.

If no one took Him seriously and He wasnt indangering anyone, Himself, and can take carw of Himself, even IF He had a mental illness it wouldnt warent a hospital stay.

Pills, maybe. Therapy, probably. Nothing more.

He did commit suicide, he came here knowing that he was going to be killed, sounds like suicide to me, he heard voices, he believed he could walk on water, I think his doctor would had suggested he takes some time in the mental ward to monitor he's medication lol.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

He did commit suicide, he came here knowing that he was going to be killed, sounds like suicide to me, he heard voices, he believed he could walk on water, I think his doctor would had suggested he takes some time in the mental ward to monitor he's medication lol.

No. Suicide by mental illness is when you are in threat to yourself. Jesus was not a threat to Himself. Emphasis on the word, threat. He did what His Father wanted Him to do even though He disagreed.

He, from just reading, had no "symptoms" of hearing voices. He displayed no medical needs to be seen. Many people hear voices and go on with their life with no need for extreme medical intervention.

Unless your saying all people who believe in God are mentaly ill? If not, Jesus is no exception.
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If this is meant to be taken lightly, best He'd have for His behavior is advice to see an outpatient therapist. Better yet, "get a job" is morst often what I hear here.

 

[RedDragon94]

Remember, they SAID he rose again, we have no verifiable or empirical proof of his resurrection. Without that, we have to assume that is nonsense they wrote to sell Jesus as God.

Where's the body?

 

[Paranoid Android]

Where's the body?

Gee..I suppose after 2,000 + years it is DUST.

 

[Paranoid Android]

No. Suicide by mental illness is when you are in threat to yourself. Jesus was not a threat to Himself. Emphasis on the word, threat. He did what His Father wanted Him to do even though He disagreed.

He, from just reading, had no "symptoms" of hearing voices. He displayed no medical needs to be seen. Many people hear voices and go on with their life with no need for extreme medical intervention.

Unless your saying all people who believe in God are mentaly ill? If not, Jesus is no exception.

Nope. I think they were told a tale they need to believe in.
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If this is meant to be taken lightly, best He'd have for His behavior is advice to see an outpatient therapist. Better yet, "get a job" is morst often what I hear here.

 

[Paranoid Android]

lig

No. Suicide by mental illness is when you are in threat to yourself. Jesus was not a threat to Himself. Emphasis on the word, threat. He did what His Father wanted Him to do even though He disagreed.

Umm..he let himself be CRUCIFIED ? He almost BEGGED to be CRUCIFIED. Do you have ANY IDEA what a crucifxtion is like ? The pain ? Your body wracked with suffering ? You struggling even to BREATHE on the cross ? Not smart.

He, from just reading, had no "symptoms" of hearing voices. He displayed no medical needs to be seen. Many people hear voices and go on with their life with no need for extreme medical intervention.

Unless your saying all people who believe in God are mentaly ill? If not, Jesus is no exception.

What I believe is most religions tell a story. The person chooses to believe in it so he can get eternal life. I think there response would be different if they were told " Your NOT going to live forever. You're going to die like a candle and be snuffed out. :
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If this is meant to be taken lightly, best He'd have for His behavior is advice to see an outpatient therapist. Better yet, "get a job" is morst often what I hear here.

 

[psychoslice]

No. Suicide by mental illness is when you are in threat to yourself. Jesus was not a threat to Himself. Emphasis on the word, threat. He did what His Father wanted Him to do even though He disagreed.

He, from just reading, had no "symptoms" of hearing voices. He displayed no medical needs to be seen. Many people hear voices and go on with their life with no need for extreme medical intervention.

Unless your saying all people who believe in God are mentaly ill? If not, Jesus is no exception.
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If this is meant to be taken lightly, best He'd have for His behavior is advice to see an outpatient therapist. Better yet, "get a job" is morst often what I hear here.

I have mental illness and I have been in the wacky ward, believe me he would be there also, going around pretending he is healing everyone, and saying he's the son of God.

 

[Paranoid Android]

I have mental illness and I have been in the wacky ward, believe me he would be there also, going around pretending he is healing everyone, and saying he's the son of God.

Yes, I agree, We had several "Messiahs" in the hospital. ALL were God. ALL could heal. ALL were sick ! People have to realize that you can seem FINE and be going bat**** INSANE, thinking God is going to curse you because you have repetitive blasphemous thoughts about the Holy Spirit. How do I know ? IT HAPPENED TO ME.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

lig

He screamed to His God, why have you put me through this. He prayed in the desert asking why His God want Him to allow Himself do such a thing. Suicide is not coerced. If anything, God commited homocide to His Son who accepted His mission but not to the point of death.

Also, Jesus didnt walk into His accusors arms. That is suicide. He allowed them to do "what would have been done anyway with or without His concent".

If some came and said they will shoot me and I had no other way out, I can say No, resist, or like Jesus, let things happen as will. There was no use of saying no. He already fustrated His people. He couldnt resist, one person to many. So, He accepted His death even thoug He begged God to let Him live.

Many who commit suicidal "want" to die in the moment of their anquish. They make that choice, although caused by mental illnesses, and many also found when they got helped or lived, they remark "I wanted to die and now inwant to live"

Jesus did not want to die.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I have mental illness and I have been in the wacky ward, believe me he would be there also, going around pretending he is healing everyone, and saying he's the son of God.

Same. Here, the criminals would get the best of him. Many people in mental health wards here are there because of murders. They are not segregated from people who have legitimate mental health conditions. Also, the way people are treated and how it is set up would make anyone like myself paranoid.

I dont see anything like that in Jesus. He had some interesting claims, but not so extreme to put Him were I have been.

Horrible

 

[Neo Deist]

What I find interesting is that the "demons" he always cast out were actually diseases or afflictions: leprosy, blindness, deafness, epilepsy. Nothing demonic about those.

The fact that Jesus said "I have cast out a demon" instead of "I have cured epilepsy" leads me to believe that he was not God incarnate, otherwise he would have known what the hell he was curing.

 

[Paranoid Android]

What I find interesting is that the "demons" he always cast out were actually diseases or afflictions: leprosy, blindness, deafness, epilepsy. Nothing demonic about those.

The fact that Jesus said "I have cast out a demon" instead of "I have cured epilepsy" leads me to believe that he was not God incarnate, otherwise he would have known what the hell he was curing.

True. As I have said before, I admire Jesus and his philosophy, but there is only ONE God (and Satan), and certainly it has nothing to do with being a man. Jesus was the Messiah, I believe, but through the bloodline of David, and he should have ruled Israel. Sadly, his mental illness led to his crucifiction,

 

[DawudTalut]

I have made the statement that Jesus was mentally ill. I base my statement on this:

Say Jesus was alive today, 2015. And say he was making statements that he was God, he created the universe, e.t.c. Now my question: WHERE WOULD HE BE ?

Answer: A MENTAL HOSPITAL

Those statements, made in modern times, probably would lead Jesus to a 72 hour hold in a mental hospital. The psychiatrist more than likely would diagnose him with Bipolar Disorder.

I understand there are people that would disagree with me. If you are going to say that Jesus was mentally well, what do you base that on ? Emotion ? Emotion does not work on logical principles. Faith ? Faith eshews using reason and universal principles to judge people. If Jesus was your BROTHER, would you ENCOURAGE his delusions or try to restore him to sanity ?

YOU DECIDE.

Peace be on you. Such statements are only metaphorical, as it was said about Moses:
And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. [Exodus7 : 1]

and Quran reports:
And when Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary, didst thou say to men, ‘Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah?’”, he will answer, “Holy art Thou. I could never say that to which I had no right. If I had said it, Thou wouldst have surely known it. Thou knowest what is in my mind, and I know not what is in Thy mind. It is only Thou Who art the Knower of hidden things. [ch5:v117]

Thus Jesus (on whom be peace ) was not insane, it is the people who misunderstood.