Magas Believe Specious Trump Claims

[Ebionite]

Post #24 demonstrated once again....

Keep referencing your irrelevant **** like you have something of value to say.

... white van collecting cats....

Video of a Springfield City Commission meeting on March 12 shows City Manager Bryan Heck admitting he has heard reports of Haitians doing “horrid things” to domestic animals.

WATCH: Springfield City Manager Admits He HAS Heard Reports of 'Horrid Things Occurring to Domesticated Animals.'

Video of a Springfield City Commission meeting on March 12 shows City Manager Bryan Heck admitting he has heard reports of Haitians doing "horrid things"

thenationalpulse.com

 

[Revoltingest]

No facts here either. You fail, again.

I've posted links to Vance's admission several times.
You missed them all?

 

[Revoltingest]

They probably go where the union teachers get free boob jobs.

Evidence for any of these claims?

 

[Kenny]

"Governors Tim Walz and Gretchen Witmer, Minnesota and Michigan removed reporting requirements for these babies. In fact, under Governor Tim Walz, Minnesota repealed the requirement for a physician to attempt to "preserve the life and health of the born alive infant" following an abortion.

Importantly, even with only 10 states having ever required reporting, there are 277 known cases of infants born alive following an abortion."

FRC Releases Updated Map and Issue Brief, Born-Alive Abortion Survivors

/PRNewswire/ -- Family Research Council's Center for Human Dignity released today an updated issue brief, Born-Alive Abortion Survivors: Just the Facts, and an...

www.prnewswire.com

""It’s hard to get accurate statistics because it’s illegal. So people won’t be happy to report things that are illegal," said Mary Ziegler, an attorney and professor at Florida State University College of Law. Ziegler is an attorney and author of two books on abortion who spoke to PolitiFact in a telephone interview.

The types of deaths targeted by the NC bill occur "to the point of almost never," she said. "At the end of the day, we don’t know. It would be wrong to say 100 percent it doesn’t happen. We don’t know. But for a variety of reasons, it’s almost impossible" to measure.

The lack of data is part of the reason why the NC bill includes a requirement that medical professionals start reporting such cases.

North Carolina tracks infant deaths but doesn’t know how many infants died after being born alive during a failed abortion, said SarahLewis Peel, spokeswoman for the NC Department of Health and Human Services."

Reports of the 'born alive' abortion scenario are rare

Abortion opponents across the country are pushing for new laws governing medical professionals who perform the procedure

www.politifact.com

I think it would be quite logical to say that if we can kill a baby just before it comes out of the womb, we can let it die after it comes out of the womb.



States that allow for late-term abortions with no state-imposed thresholds are Alaska, Colorado, District of Columbia, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, Oregon, and Vermont.

Late Term Abortion Laws by State 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

 

[Ebionite]

I've posted links to Vance's admission several times.

For example? All I've seen is your #62, which isn't "several times" and it isn't previously posted.

Oh, and by the way caption saying that Vance made an admission is not the same thing as Vance actually admitting something.

 

[Revoltingest]

For example? All I've seen is your #62, which isn't "several times" and it isn't previously posted.

I've posted links before.
Your having not seen them is irrelevant.

 

[Ebionite]

What of the fact that Vance admitted lying
about Haitians stealing & eating pets?

Here's what he actually said (on X):

In the last several weeks, my office has received many inquiries from actual residents of Springfield who've said their neighbors' pets or local wildlife were abducted by Haitian migrants. It's possible, of course, that all of these rumors will turn out to be false.

x.com

x.com

 

[Revoltingest]

Here's what he actually said (on X):

In the last several weeks, my office has received many inquiries from actual residents of Springfield who've said their neighbors' pets or local wildlife were abducted by Haitian migrants. It's possible, of course, that all of these rumors will turn out to be false.

x.com

x.com

That ignores the other thing he said,
ie, the one about creating stories.

 

[Ebionite]

That ignores the other thing he said.

The "other thing" wasn't an admission of dishonesty. Seems that you thought that the caption was true without listening to what was said.

 

[Revoltingest]

The "other thing" wasn't an admission of dishonesty.

Admitting creating false stories is to admit lying.
He just avoided the uncomfortable words.

 

[wellwisher]

MSN

www.msn.com

Excerpted....

The staggering reach of Trump’s misinformation — not just on Haitian migrants​

From Day One of his presidency to this day, Donald Trump has promoted an alternate reality that has caught on with a shocking proportion of his base. But we don’t often get good polling that shows just how much Trump’s misinformation has penetrated the country.

Today, we have such polling. And it’s sobering, if unsurprising.

From Day One of his presidency to this day, Donald Trump has promoted an alternate reality that has caught on with a shocking proportion of his base. But we don’t often get good polling that shows just how much Trump’s misinformation has penetrated the country.

Today, we have such polling. And it’s sobering, if unsurprising.

As Trump has launched a series of claims and suggestions that are bizarre even by his standards, new data shows large swaths of his supporters believe them.

But the most drastic among them — most notably the claim about Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, stealing and eating pets — have not caught on with more middle-of-the-road voters. That suggests there is real potential downside for Trump in pushing these fantasies.

The new data comes from YouGov, which has occasionally tested Trump’s false claims. After last week’s debate, YouGov asked voters about a battery of them.

The major findings on what Trump supporters believe:

• A majority (52 percent) of Trump supporters say they believe the claim about Haitian migrants “abducting and eating pet dogs and cats.” Excluding those who are “not sure,” twice as many say it’s at least “probably true” as say it’s at least “probably false.” (There remains no real evidence for this claim. Officials have debunked it and linked it to threats, and Republican Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine on Sunday called it “a piece of garbage that was simply not true.”)
• 43 percent of Trump supporters say they believe that “in some states it is legal to kill a baby after birth” — another claim Trump referenced at last week’s debate. In fact, slightly more said they believed this was true than disbelieved it. (It is false.)
  
  
  • 28 percent of Trump supporters say they believe that “public schools are providing students with sex-change operations,” something Trump has recently suggested is happening but for which there is no evidence.

Here is a statement from the Biden-Harris State Department, that has restricted US citizen travel to Haiti due to violence.

Haiti Travel Advisory.

I am not saying that the all the Haitian immigrants are as bad as those left behind. However, the Biden and Harris are not doing a good job at vetting criminals. It is very likely some criminal types have managed to enter, among the 850,000 Haitian immigrants now in the USA. Many are escaping the violence. The Left denial of even zero cases, is disinformation, and is not based on any investigation, but rather is political in nature to avoid any Haitian crime tag, on the soft on crime, Harris.

Do some simple research and you can see potential problems, created by the naivety of Biden and Harris. As puppets they are not responsible to extrapolate but just follow orders and sign orders.

Based on what is going on in Haiti, I can see problems coming to the USA. All immigrants get tailed by their ethnic mafia, who will terrorize their own kind, who will be afraid to talk to the police. Carrying the water for Biden and Harris is not the same as truth.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

They probably go where the union teachers get free boob jobs.

I can get a free boob job?!

 

[crossfire]

"Governors Tim Walz and Gretchen Witmer, Minnesota and Michigan removed reporting requirements for these babies. In fact, under Governor Tim Walz, Minnesota repealed the requirement for a physician to attempt to "preserve the life and health of the born alive infant" following an abortion.

Importantly, even with only 10 states having ever required reporting, there are 277 known cases of infants born alive following an abortion."

FRC Releases Updated Map and Issue Brief, Born-Alive Abortion Survivors

/PRNewswire/ -- Family Research Council's Center for Human Dignity released today an updated issue brief, Born-Alive Abortion Survivors: Just the Facts, and an...

www.prnewswire.com

""It’s hard to get accurate statistics because it’s illegal. So people won’t be happy to report things that are illegal," said Mary Ziegler, an attorney and professor at Florida State University College of Law. Ziegler is an attorney and author of two books on abortion who spoke to PolitiFact in a telephone interview.

The types of deaths targeted by the NC bill occur "to the point of almost never," she said. "At the end of the day, we don’t know. It would be wrong to say 100 percent it doesn’t happen. We don’t know. But for a variety of reasons, it’s almost impossible" to measure.

The lack of data is part of the reason why the NC bill includes a requirement that medical professionals start reporting such cases.

North Carolina tracks infant deaths but doesn’t know how many infants died after being born alive during a failed abortion, said SarahLewis Peel, spokeswoman for the NC Department of Health and Human Services."

Reports of the 'born alive' abortion scenario are rare

Abortion opponents across the country are pushing for new laws governing medical professionals who perform the procedure

www.politifact.com

I think it would be quite logical to say that if we can kill a baby just before it comes out of the womb, we can let it die after it comes out of the womb.



States that allow for late-term abortions with no state-imposed thresholds are Alaska, Colorado, District of Columbia, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, Oregon, and Vermont.

Late Term Abortion Laws by State 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

The born alive provision is still in the current Minnesota Statues:

Sec. 145.423 MN Statutes

145.423 RECOGNITION OF INFANT WHO IS BORN ALIVE.​

Subdivision 1.Recognition; care.​

An infant who is born alive shall be fully recognized as a human person, and accorded immediate protection under the law. All reasonable measures consistent with good medical practice, including the compilation of appropriate medical records, shall be taken by the responsible medical personnel to care for the infant who is born alive.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I can get a free boob job?!

Only if you live in the People's Republic.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Evidence for any of these claims?

It's been discussed years ago and probably is in the archives so look it up.

 

[Revoltingest]

Here is a statement from the Biden-Harris State Department, that has restricted US citizen travel to Haiti due to violence.

Haiti Travel Advisory.

I am not saying that the all the Haitian immigrants are as bad as those left behind. However, the Biden and Harris are not doing a good job at vetting criminals. It is very likely some criminal types have managed to enter, among the 850,000 Haitian immigrants now in the USA. Many are escaping the violence. The Left denial of even zero cases, is disinformation, and is not based on any investigation, but rather is political in nature to avoid any Haitian crime tag, on the soft on crime, Harris.

Do some simple research and you can see potential problems, created by the naivety of Biden and Harris. As puppets they are not responsible to extrapolate but just follow orders and sign orders.

Based on what is going on in Haiti, I can see problems coming to the USA. All immigrants get tailed by their ethnic mafia, who will terrorize their own kind, who will be afraid to talk to the police. Carrying the water for Biden and Harris is not the same as truth.

There is a problem with immigration lacking proper control
& support. But in the context of an election, Trump's &
Vance's lies endanger immigrants & the people of Springfield.
I hear some ostensible examples of Harris being soft on crime,
but nothing that paints a larger picture. Ironicly, Trump is even
softer, promising to pardon the Insurrectionists.

Harris is bad IMO. But Trump is far far worse.

 

[Revoltingest]

It's been discussed years ago and probably is in the archives so look it up.

IOW no evidence.

 

[McBell]

Keep referencing your irrelevant **** like you have something of value to say.

... white van collecting cats....

Video of a Springfield City Commission meeting on March 12 shows City Manager Bryan Heck admitting he has heard reports of Haitians doing “horrid things” to domestic animals.

WATCH: Springfield City Manager Admits He HAS Heard Reports of 'Horrid Things Occurring to Domesticated Animals.'

Video of a Springfield City Commission meeting on March 12 shows City Manager Bryan Heck admitting he has heard reports of Haitians doing "horrid things"

thenationalpulse.com

So what?

The city manager has not seen or heard any "credible reports" of Haitians killing pets.

Says so right in the article you presented.

Notice that the city manager did not say what you claim he said.

 

[McBell]

For example? All I've seen is your #62, which isn't "several times" and it isn't previously posted.

Oh, and by the way caption saying that Vance made an admission is not the same thing as Vance actually admitting something.

Perhaps you should read the whole articles, not just the headline...


Though your only reading the headlines does explain quite a lot...

 

[fantome profane]

The burden of proof of relevance is yours. So your only option is to flee the field.

You honestly believe that the burden is on people to prove that the Haitians are not eating cats?

You first, prove that you are not eating cats?