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Main Campaign Theme Difference Between Trump & Harris

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I notice that the big difference isn't even ideological.
And I don't claim that either approach is necessarily
better or worse.

Trump promises doing things to people.
Harris promises doing things for people.

It's fascinating that they have such different foci.
Speaks to their personalities, eh.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
I notice that the big difference isn't even ideological.
And I don't claim that either approach is necessarily
better or worse.

Trump promises doing things to people.
Harris promises doing things for people.

It's fascinating that they have such different foci.
Speaks to their personalities, eh.
Where do you hear that is all he promises, I've heard numerous promises that is for the people.
 

anna.

colors your eyes with what's not there
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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I notice that the big difference isn't even ideological.
And I don't claim that either approach is necessarily
better or worse.

Trump promises doing things to people.
Harris promises doing things for people.

It's fascinating that they have such different foci.
Speaks to their personalities, eh.
Promises are not plans and not actual strategy and neither has elaborated on what they're going to exactly do.


At least Trump has a track record from his first Administration , so we got better ideas than the chameleon woman who has absolutely nothing to show aside from her so called promises, and she's just another extension of Bidens policies so far, which of course is absolutely disastrous.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
And take back 10 times as much through tariffs unless you are in the top 1% or so. Not to mention all of his tax cuts are just borrowing money that you will have to pay back with interest in 10 years.

Yes he has made promises, but he won't tell you what they mean.
People need money now, not in 10 yrs.
 

Spice

StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
Trump promises to put more money in people’s net paycheck.
Only if your paycheck is already large enough to play the market -- and I'm not referring to the supermarket, though it still works there, too.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Only if your paycheck is already large enough to play the market -- and I'm not referring to the supermarket, though it still works there, too.
It’s a significant difference in a supermarket paycheck as well.
 

Spice

StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
It’s a significant difference in a supermarket paycheck as well.
I don't think you caught my meaning. I was referring to Trump's proposals will likely increase the paychecks of those who have plenty already. The ones that can afford to play the stock market and they can also afford to play around in a supermarket, buying as they like. Those who have to shop with a list and a calculator are at best investing through a 401k at work, and that is the closest they'll ever come to playing the stock market. Trump doesn't relate to those people. That's why he chose Vance, but Vance never truly engaged at that level, himself. The adults in his childhood did, but he never had to.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Give them tax relief both now and in ten years and put the tax burden on those who are benefiting the most from the economic system.
Maybe in 2028
I don't think you caught my meaning. I was referring to Trump's proposals will likely increase the paychecks of those who have plenty already. The ones that can afford to play the stock market and they can also afford to play around in a supermarket, buying as they like. Those who have to shop with a list and a calculator are at best investing through a 401k at work, and that is the closest they'll ever come to playing the stock market. Trump doesn't relate to those people. That's why he chose Vance, but Vance never truly engaged at that level, himself. The adults in his childhood did, but he never had to.
it increases the little guys paycheck too
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
People need money now, not in 10 yrs.
Yes and the tariffs will take it away and then some.

Tell you what, I will reduce your taxes by 250$ but you will have to pay 2500$ more for the stuff you buy that is not made in this country.

We don't make phones, or TVs or pots and pans except really expensive ones or toys or clothes except high end designer labels or almost anything sold at Walmart.
What we do need is the roads and bridges and schools that our taxes pay for, we can skimp on them some more, but then we pay double when they fail catastrophically.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Yes and the tariffs will take it away and then some.

Tell you what, I will reduce your taxes by 250$ but you will have to pay 2500$ more for the stuff you buy that is not made in this country.

We don't make phones, or TVs or pots and pans except really expensive ones or toys or clothes except high end designer labels or almost anything sold at Walmart.
What we do need is the roads and bridges and schools that our taxes pay for, we can skimp on them some more, but then we pay double when they fail catastrophically.
Yeah, the prices on things now are just wonderful.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Maybe in 2028

it increases the little guys paycheck too
Yeah, just like it has been doing since Reagan conned everyone with trickle down economics.
Sure they will give you a dollar, but you have to give them five.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Yeah, the prices on things now are just wonderful.
And trump wants to increase them by 10 or 20 percent for anything made overseas and 60% on things made in China. Trump's policies and proposals will not make them cheaper. Look around your kitchen or living room and find anything smaller than a chair that is made in the USA, and I wouldn't be too sure about your furniture either.

Exports from China had a profound effect on U.S. furniture manufacturing. In 1994, China exported $241 million worth of wood furniture to the United States. By 2004, that figure had grown more than seventeenfold, to $4.2 billion. By 2016, 73.5 percent of all furniture sold in America was imported.

Now if you make a few hundred thousand dollars a year, you could probably afford to spend 5000$ on a good American made dining room table but somehow, I doubt that is the case.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Where do you hear that is all he promises, I've heard numerous promises that is for the people.
I was careful to avoid the "all" inference.
Not careful enuf, eh.
Reading both, Trump & Vance are very much about
whom they oppose/loathe/disrespect, eg, childless
women, Haitians, immigrants, Democrats, liberals,
soldiers, foreigners, critics of judges, victims of cops,
Muslims, non-whites, the media.
Plans to curb their rights, to deport them, to prosecute
them, & imprison them.
These are his team's main themes.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Promises are not plans and not actual strategy and neither has elaborated on what they're going to exactly do.
Of course.
But that's a separate issue from the main foci I'm addressing.
At least Trump has a track record from his first Administration , so we got better ideas than the chameleon woman who has absolutely nothing to show aside from her so called promises, and she's just another extension of Bidens policies so far, which of course is absolutely disastrous.
Trump's track record is his biggest negative.
Failure of his wall, mostly failed leadership on Covid,
& worst of all, his elaborate multi-faceted coup.
But this thread isn't about Trump's incompetence,
treason, & mental meltdown.
 
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