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Making friends

Leo613

Active Member
Growing up I didn't really have any friends. So I thought if I change something about myself maybe people will like me. I was brought up Jewish orthodox so I decided to become secular maybe I'll make some friends, at least there's more opportunities being they're the majority. I also did therapy just in case that would help.

It hasn't seemed to have helped. I've heard that its best just to be your self. But that means talking it through with people to find it out. It depends who you talk to, you get a different outcome. I can't please everyone. But I want advice, I want to hear different people's opinions. its up to me what I decide.

Maybe I'm being too cautious like not getting a tattoo or dying my hair blond (thay say blonds have more fun).

So how does one make friends?
 

Palehorse

Active Member
So how does one make friends?

By following you and your friends dream.

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BSM1

What? Me worry?
I was in eleven different schools by the time I was in the sixth grade so I learned how to make friends quickly. The simplest trick is to ask them about themselves. People love to talk about themselves. (You'll usually find out all you need to know about someone in less than 15 minutes.)
 

Unfathomable Tao

Student of the Way
I would try some social events in your area, and just talk back to someone when they talk to you. Someone is bound to address you. I can point you in the direction of somewhere you're bound to make a few friends, regardless of your worldview- a Unitarian Universalist congregation.
 

Leo613

Active Member
I was in eleven different schools by the time I was in the sixth grade so I learned how to make friends quickly. The simplest trick is to ask them about themselves. People love to talk about themselves. (You'll usually find out all you need to know about someone in less than 15 minutes.)
Thanks!

Can you give me 3 examples of a question?
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
You just asked one! Congrats. See how easy this is. I find myself feeling friendly towards you because you have taken an interest in my opinion. Now just keep your eyes and ears open and you'll find this same thing works in real life.
 

Leo613

Active Member
You just asked one! Congrats. See how easy this is. I find myself feeling friendly towards you because you have taken an interest in my opinion. Now just keep your eyes and ears open and you'll find this same thing works in real life.
Some people say they feel its like inquisition or best an interview, what about then?
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Some people say they feel its like inquisition or best an interview, what about then?

Did I? You "heard" me say something and you capitalized on it. You didn't ask my name, rank, and serial number, you just asked me a straightforward question; and you seemed genuinely interested in my answer. Keep in mind that when you first meet a person a little bit goes a long way. BTW, you just asked another question that allowed me to voluntarily open up. You're getting good at this.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I joined a club. I was driving and I saw a sign which read, Button Show and Sale. I went in to look around and someone called a meeting, so I went to that. Before that, I was a Jehovah's Witness, but I left them so I had no friends, just family (family can be friends too). Now I have friends that are not family and I even went to Hawaii with one of my new friends!

I think you need not do anything to your outward appearance to have real friends.
 

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Growing up I didn't really have any friends. So I thought if I change something about myself maybe people will like me. I was brought up Jewish orthodox so I decided to become secular maybe I'll make some friends, at least there's more opportunities being they're the majority. I also did therapy just in case that would help.

It hasn't seemed to have helped. I've heard that its best just to be your self. But that means talking it through with people to find it out. It depends who you talk to, you get a different outcome. I can't please everyone. But I want advice, I want to hear different people's opinions. its up to me what I decide.

Maybe I'm being too cautious like not getting a tattoo or dying my hair blond (thay say blonds have more fun).

So how does one make friends?

The same is true for me. I struggled to make friends when I was a kid. As I hit my teens it started to matter. I did make friends at secondary school, sixth form and university. What happened afterwards is that I had depression and withdrew. With maybe one exception I learned that virtually all of them were "false friends". Only one stayed in touch by phone thtough these years and we catch up on and off.
The truth is that it isn't your fault. In a sense that is very depressing because you can think people don't want to be your friend, but in another way it can be liberating as you don't have to care about whether people like you or not. I won't pretend that is easy but it is very useful when you realise how irrational people are, how superficial their judgements are of people and how quickly their opinion of a person can shift based on what other people say about them.
There's is a stigma round isolation that without freinds you don't have value. This isn't true and overcoming it is the secret to learning to love yourself in a healthy way. I think to be honest we are all very individualistic and so place quite a low value and low effort on relationships. Our society places a very high value on extroversion because it is how we "market" ourselves to others. But these relationships are very poor (I remember my popular freind being surprised when I was concerned about his drug habit-which was surprising especially given he had many girlfriends). So Being popular is like being in demand in the market place and is a way to achieve status and is tied up with self worth : in the end it's not the number of friends you have that matters but how good those friendships are. Would you prefer a dozen bad friends who don't care for you or having just the one who sticks there neck out for you?

Introversion has value but it is less visible and therefore less marketable as part of an "image". The myth of the troubled loner is in some ways a reflection of a society which demonises people for being in touch with their emotions and recognising the conflicting unconscious signals that a society of inauthentic people give off. (There is a meme for INFJ's on the Myers-Briggs personality test which has the kid from the sixth sense with the tag line "I see fake people". It's funny because it's true.)
It is true that friends come and go but it does seem incredibly easy to loose touch, even with social media like Facebook. (I realise virtually all of my Facebook traffic was outwards).

The thing to realise is that how we think about relationships affects how we feel. If we think friends are scarce, we feel insecure, needy and dependent: but if we realise that loneliness is actually an illusion you can open up and feel more comfortable being yourself. The fear of rejection is usually worse than being rejected itself. If you love yourself and enjoy your own company and find creative ways to spend your time, you'll actually be easier to be around when you do meet someone.

Perhaps not what you want to hear but maybe something helpful will come out of it. :)
 

-Peacemaker-

.45 Cal

First off you have to be genuine. Don't change yourself to please others. You'll be rejected from time to time but its a numbers game. Keep putting yourself in social situations and you're bound to meet somebody who you can be friends with. One of the previous posters was right. People like to talk about themselves. So ask questions. Try to get to know the person. The FORD acronym is a good place to start. It stands for family, occupation, recreation, and dreams. Ask people about these things and see if you can find some common ground to jumpstart a conversation. For example, you're asking someone about their hobbies and they mention they're a big Star Trek fan and it just so happens you are too. All of a sudden you can start talking about that subject together. This process may be awkward for you, especially in the beginning but you must push through until you find your own style of relating to people.

As far as women go, you have to project confidence. Women want a confident man. I preach that a man must be confident bordering on cockiness. You have to know you're the s***. Use the same conversation strategies as you would with a guy. And don't be discouraged if it doesn't work out. Keep pushing through until you can find your style of relating to people. You're naturally going to be more confident once you find that style/ You also have to genuinely love women and their company. Bask in their presence. It's intoxicating. You must yearn to learn the secrets of their heart. Consider woman to be a beautiful flower whose petals you must delicately open to find out what's underneath. And for God's sake be a gentleman. Go into the interaction with the intent of making a friend, not trying to get laid. If you do that, there's a good chance she won't be able to keep her hands off you.
 

Acim

Revelation all the time
Growing up I didn't really have any friends. So I thought if I change something about myself maybe people will like me. I was brought up Jewish orthodox so I decided to become secular maybe I'll make some friends, at least there's more opportunities being they're the majority. I also did therapy just in case that would help.

It hasn't seemed to have helped. I've heard that its best just to be your self. But that means talking it through with people to find it out. It depends who you talk to, you get a different outcome. I can't please everyone. But I want advice, I want to hear different people's opinions. its up to me what I decide.

Maybe I'm being too cautious like not getting a tattoo or dying my hair blond (thay say blonds have more fun).

So how does one make friends?

Find people with common interests. Share in that. Be yourself while doing that activity. If a particular person interests you, find opportunity to share some chit chat, and/or be open to chit chat yourself. Rinse, repeat and the more chatter, the easier it is to get into more in depth discussions. Some days, that person's chat may just need a person who is truly willing to listen while they vent. If you can be that person, they'll probably consider you a 'good, trusted friend.' Other days, you might be the person needing to vent, and if they can truly listen without judging, you'll likely find that you just made a new friend. Then possibility for new common interests can be explored and the friendship will blossom in ways that words can describe after the fact, but can't readily predict how deep and meaningful the connection is/will be.
 

suncowiam

Well-Known Member
Growing up I didn't really have any friends. So I thought if I change something about myself maybe people will like me. I was brought up Jewish orthodox so I decided to become secular maybe I'll make some friends, at least there's more opportunities being they're the majority. I also did therapy just in case that would help.

It hasn't seemed to have helped. I've heard that its best just to be your self. But that means talking it through with people to find it out. It depends who you talk to, you get a different outcome. I can't please everyone. But I want advice, I want to hear different people's opinions. its up to me what I decide.

Maybe I'm being too cautious like not getting a tattoo or dying my hair blond (thay say blonds have more fun).

So how does one make friends?

I'm gonna say just be you and like-minded folks will gravitate towards you.

Pretending so others will like you simply won't work in the long run. There's no amount of pretending to fool people long enough.

Smile and genuinely have fun!
 
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