Man vs. Beast

[Katzpur]

The difference in man and animals is hat we are created in the image of God. We have souls; animals do not.

I disagree. The fact that we were created in God's image is another topic entirely. I believe that we have a human soul (spirit) and that animals have animal souls (spirits). I don't believe that life can exist without a spirit, which is its life force.

 

[Booko]

I disagree. The fact that we were created in God's image is another topic entirely. I believe that we have a human soul (spirit) and that animals have animal souls (spirits). I don't believe that life can exist without a spirit, which is its life force.

Perhaps the better question would be do you believe that animals continue exist after they die here?

 

[Booko]

see that post right there is the reason i hate to disagree with you... now i have absolutely nothing to comment on because i agree with you.... what are you? ghandi reincarnated?:bow: how am i supposed to debate you if i agree?:149:

Well, if we try hard enough, I'm sure we can find something to disagree about.

Um...do you like peanut butter?

Sheesh, I wish I were Ghandi reincarnated. I'm afraid I'm nowhere near his level of enlightenment. :fork:

 

[Katzpur]

Perhaps the better question would be do you believe that animals continue exist after they die here?

Absolutely!

 

[Booko]

Perhaps the better question would be do you believe that animals continue exist after they die here?

Absolutely!

Ooh, now I *really* like you guys!

I'm rather upset that my religion teaches animals don't have souls and so don't continue to exist after death. I want to have my cats around in the next life! :kat: :kat: :kat:

 

[Katzpur]

Ooh, now I *really* like you guys!

I'm rather upset that my religion teaches animals don't have souls and so don't continue to exist after death. I want to have my cats around in the next life! :kat: :kat: :kat:

Well, at the risk of offending (because, I really, really really don't want to), I believe your religion is wrong on this count. Mine teaches that they will be resurrected, just like humans. And I know that heaven would not be heaven without my pets!

 

[mr.guy]

And I know that heaven would not be heaven without my pets!

Just my luck. I had to pick a tamagotchi...

 

[Booko]

Well, at the risk of offending (because, I really, really really don't want to), I believe your religion is wrong on this count. Mine teaches that they will be resurrected, just like humans. And I know that heaven would not be heaven without my pets!

Katzpur, how could you ever offend me just because you believe something different than I do? I even have differences of opinion with my fellow Baha'is, much less those of other beliefs.

Besides, I think life would be deadly dull if everyone agreed. It would read like the Man Talk thread does at times..yuuppp...yuuuppp. :biglaugh:

Besides, I would really *like* to be wrong on this one! Heaven wihtout cats and ducks? What fun is that!?!

 

[Booko]

Just my luck. I had to pick a tamagotchi...

You could always try a Neopet. I prefer Quiggles.

 

[DeadVegas]

What truly makes man better than animals? Religion? Science? Thumbs?

Any thoughts? And why do you believe this

Some animals are better than some people. It depends on what animal and person you're talking about. For instance, a penguin is far higher than an emo.

 

[bill]

At the risk of repeating something someone else said cause my computer is slow and I haven't read all this thread, I venture we are different to animals by virtue of being able to pose these questions without eating eachother. If a lion thought he was better than you it would eat you. We get to argue the pros and cons of this on the web. There is no guarantee any other animal could abstract a conscious experience from the bare bones of reality like we can either. Maybe we are special after all

 

[michel]

Perhaps the better question would be do you believe that animals continue exist after they die here?

I do; I believe as Katzpur does. That is where our 'commonality of beliefs' stops though, because I believe in reincarnation.

There are many lessons to learn, as an animal. And maybe that is what makes me think that animals have superior qualities to man.

Take the pet dog, for example, unconditional love, complete trust, and acceptance.

(for an example of acceptance, I only need quote our dog; she loves to sleep on the setee in the evening. Mostly we put a blanket on the setee, but, if we are in the middle of something important, she looks at me for permission; if I deny it, she merely walks off to settle down elsewhere, with her tail wagging, showing she is content. Now that is true acceptance).

 

[Booko]

I do; I believe as Katzpur does. That is where our 'commonality of beliefs' stops though, because I believe in reincarnation.

There are many lessons to learn, as an animal. And maybe that is what makes me think that animals have superior qualities to man.

Take the pet dog, for example, unconditional love, complete trust, and acceptance.

(for an example of acceptance, I only need quote our dog; she loves to sleep on the setee in the evening. Mostly we put a blanket on the setee, but, if we are in the middle of something important, she looks at me for permission; if I deny it, she merely walks off to settle down elsewhere, with her tail wagging, showing she is content. Now that is true acceptance).

In the Baha'i Writings, it's said that animals manifest one of the attributes of God (and we contain them all, at least potentially).

I've always wondered if the attribute manifested by dogs wasn't loyalty. Unconditional love would work as well.

One wonders what cats get. Sleepiness? :sarcastic