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Mary Magdalene

fallingblood

Agnostic Theist
IMHO, I believe that if Jesus were married, it would have been important enough for one of the Gospel writers to make mention of. I do believe that she was extremely important to His ministry, more important than many people give credit for.
It depends on the sect that Jesus was apart. It would not be necessary that a marriage would be mentioned as it may not have been important enough. They were talking about the ministry of Jesus. Whether or not he was married was probably unimportant.
 

Oberon

Well-Known Member
It depends on the sect that Jesus was apart. It would not be necessary that a marriage would be mentioned as it may not have been important enough. They were talking about the ministry of Jesus. Whether or not he was married was probably unimportant.

There are some places where it would be very important, even in his ministry. After all, Jesus does talk about marriage. And Paul, when giving examples of married men in 1 Cor. 9:5, mentions Jesus' brothers and Peter, but not Jesus.
 

Cypress

Dragon Mom
IMHO, I believe that if Jesus were married, it would have been important enough for one of the Gospel writers to make mention of.
I think if Jesus was not married, it would have been important enough to mention.
Jesus was a Jew & a Rabbi, it is very unlikely that he was not married.
That his wife is mentioned nowhere does not mean anything, women ment very little in Jewish society at this time.
 

Oberon

Well-Known Member
Jesus was a Jew & a Rabbi, it is very unlikely that he was not married.

The term "rabbi" was merely one of respect in Jesus' day. And there were Jews, such as the Essenes, who did not marry. It would not be that unusual for someone as already unusual as Jesus to not marry.
 

jml03

Member
I realize that Jesus was here in the flesh, however that does not mean he possessed all the desires of the flesh. Men and women everywhere take vows to abstain from sex and marriage. This is not unusual when it pertains to your faith and calling.
 

te_lanus

Alien Hybrid
In Christian-wiccan/paganism, Mary plays a big part.

Some sees her as the mother goddess, or the wife of Jesus and co-Saviour. I'm from the latter school :), I think that they were married, it's not mentioned in the bible as it was not deemed necessary. In the gospel of peter it is said that Jesus loved Mary Magdalene more than anybody else. It could imply that they were married.

Also if one look thru the gospels One can see if something major happened in Jesus ministry Mary Magdalene was there. She was there when He was Died on the cross, She saw the grave being shut, She was first to find the grave unoccupied, Jesus appeared first to her, she was first to be send out to tell everybody that Jesus was risen.
 

Cypress

Dragon Mom
Also if one look thru the gospels One can see if something major happened in Jesus ministry Mary Magdalene was there. She was there when He was Died on the cross, She saw the grave being shut, She was first to find the grave unoccupied, Jesus appeared first to her, she was first to be send out to tell everybody that Jesus was risen.
And this is exactly why it is totally wrong to be against women becoming priestesses.
Glad that this has chanced in many Christian denominations.
The Roman Catholic Church of course will never learn.
 

fallingblood

Agnostic Theist
There are some places where it would be very important, even in his ministry. After all, Jesus does talk about marriage. And Paul, when giving examples of married men in 1 Cor. 9:5, mentions Jesus' brothers and Peter, but not Jesus.
I can agree with that. I just don't see much reason for it to be mentioned in the course of the Gospels, especially if he had already been married before his ministry and the timeline in which the Gospel writers focus on.

I think if his marriage status was meant to be something that the audiences were just suppose to know. I think it may have been something that was just taken for granted. Personally though, I lean to the idea that he wasn't married anyway.
 

Willowmina

On a journey to the ocean
In Christian-wiccan/paganism, Mary plays a big part.

Some sees her as the mother goddess, or the wife of Jesus and co-Saviour. I'm from the latter school :), I think that they were married, it's not mentioned in the bible as it was not deemed necessary. In the gospel of peter it is said that Jesus loved Mary Magdalene more than anybody else. It could imply that they were married.

Also if one look thru the gospels One can see if something major happened in Jesus ministry Mary Magdalene was there. She was there when He was Died on the cross, She saw the grave being shut, She was first to find the grave unoccupied, Jesus appeared first to her, she was first to be send out to tell everybody that Jesus was risen.
I couldn't agree more. Married or not, I believe they were a couple.
 

Aristilus

Aristilus
Has anyone read the book "Mary Magdalene" by Lynn Picknett. She provides convincing arguments as to Mary being Jesus spiritual partner and closest confidante. It is a very enlightening book and well worth a read.
 

fallingblood

Agnostic Theist
Has anyone read the book "Mary Magdalene" by Lynn Picknett. She provides convincing arguments as to Mary being Jesus spiritual partner and closest confidante. It is a very enlightening book and well worth a read.
I've read various works of Lynn Picknett, as well as watched her on a couple of documentaries. She really has no credibility, and really just writes pseudo-history.

The problem with her work is that she does not properly research. She knows the information, but she doesn't put it into context. She puts too much weight on works that are outdated, far removed from the events, and simply produced to do nothing more than further what she wants. More so, she misrepresents the information.

She is better than many other pseudo-historians/conspiracy theorist; however, looking at a scholarly perspective, she lacks too much to really be considered credible.
 

fallingblood

Agnostic Theist
In Christian-wiccan/paganism, Mary plays a big part.

Some sees her as the mother goddess, or the wife of Jesus and co-Saviour. I'm from the latter school :), I think that they were married, it's not mentioned in the bible as it was not deemed necessary. In the gospel of peter it is said that Jesus loved Mary Magdalene more than anybody else. It could imply that they were married.

Also if one look thru the gospels One can see if something major happened in Jesus ministry Mary Magdalene was there. She was there when He was Died on the cross, She saw the grave being shut, She was first to find the grave unoccupied, Jesus appeared first to her, she was first to be send out to tell everybody that Jesus was risen.
The Gospel of Peter is touchy. First, it was written long after the events. More so though, there is no suggestion that they were married. What it does do is describe her as a female disciple. One can not look much more into it than that.

As for the Gospels, that is touchy too. Mary, many times in different Gospels, is not the only woman to be in those places. Looking at each Gospel, her role is not too clear. Calling her an apostle to the apostles is probably close to what she was considered by some.
 

Oberon

Well-Known Member
In the gospel of peter it is said that Jesus loved Mary Magdalene more than anybody else.
Actually, it has been questioned whether the Mary in the so-called gnostic gospels is Mary of Magdala (or any single historial figure) at all. See, e.g. Shoemaker, S. J. (2001). "Rethinking the gnostic Mary: Mary of Nazareth and Mary of Magdala in Early Christian Tradition." Journal of Early Christian Studies 9.4, pp. 555-595. Shoemaker argues that the Mary of the gnostic texts is a composite figure.
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
There was a discussion about it here with one person who said because of the Jewish culture of the time he felt it was obvious that they were married. Personally its over my head, but there are going to be flaws in arguments for and against. If they were married, then why do the gospels not say so? Instead the letters (not the gospels) say that the 'Church' is the 'Bride of Christ' which sets up a dynamic figure. If Jesus is Christ and Jesus is married to Mary, then Mary is the Church. Capiche?
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
What do you think about her?
Do you think she was the wife of Jesus?

I think she was. I once read something of which I don't have a reference now that she also joined Jesus in his travels towards India and the neighbouring countries when he had to migrate from Judea after the event of crucifixion, in which he survived . They say that during the travels she died in Quetta and is buried there; maybe Marri tribe is after her name.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
There's also the issue of how one defines apostle. Jesus picked out what were almost certainly twelve men as an inner core of followers. But not only does there seem to have been an "inner core" among the twelve, there may well have been (and there is some evidence for) other followers who were not among the twelve but who were important.

Bible has its contradictions. If the twelve were chosen by Jesus; in fact I don't differ with that; and they were well versed in his teachings and they were morally trained by Jesus par excellence; then Jesus should have appointed one of them as his successor after him in Judea. It is one reason among many that one doubts the vision that Paul described having seen of Jesus.
 
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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
I like the tradition that Mary was "the apostle to the apostles."

I also like Mary being Jesus's wife and they have kids.

Jesus later married to other women also in India. One Pashtun tribe named Issa Khel or sons of Issa or Jesus is from his off-spring. Jesus also got married in Kashmir; there are people there who say that they are from his lineage; after all Jesus was a male human being and there was not restriction on him from his Jewish tradition not to marry.

Of course one has to make a search or research to believe or not to believe in a thing.
 

Brickjectivity

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Premium Member
Paarsurrey said:
I think she was. I once read something of which I don't have a reference now that she also joined Jesus in his travels towards India and the neighbouring countries when he had to migrate from Judea after the event of crucifixion, in which he survived . They say that during the travels she died in Quetta and is buried there; maybe Marri tribe is after her name.
Could this be a rumour? You are a stranger, and you are referring to a very odd or arcane idea without using a source. You could easily be spreading a rumour without knowing it or without intending to. I'm certainly not going to repeat it anywhere. I would be interested in knowing the source of your information, so I can decide for myself if the information is worth repeating. I respect you as a person, but I don't know you and cannot run with the information you have provided as you have passed it to me.
 

Brickjectivity

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paarsurrey said:
Of course one has to make a search or research to believe or not to believe in a thing.
Where would one search about something so arcane? I would love to know if there are actual ancient traditions of Jesus travelling to India, but without a source it is as good as disproved.
 
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