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Mask wearing: How is it political?

"During the Covid-19 pandemic, wearing a surgical face mask in the correct manner when in a crowded, indoor place significantly reduced the risk of the wearer infecting other people in the event that the wearer was infected with the Covid-19 virus at the time."

From what I gather, some people consider this to be a political statement. Could anybody please explain how it is?
 

McBell

Unbound
Some people, even to this day, think that the statement:

"During the Covid-19 pandemic, wearing a surgical face mask in the correct manner when in a crowded, indoor place significantly reduced the risk of the wearer infecting other people in the event that the wearer was infected with the Covid-19 virus at the time."​
Is a bold face lie used to control the masses.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
"During the Covid-19 pandemic, wearing a surgical face mask in the correct manner when in a crowded, indoor place significantly reduced the risk of the wearer infecting other people in the event that the wearer was infected with the Covid-19 virus at the time."

From what I gather, some people consider this to be a political statement. Could anybody please explain how it is?
Since facts vs "alternativ facts" has become an issue, every fact can become political.
 

Foxfyre

Member
"During the Covid-19 pandemic, wearing a surgical face mask in the correct manner when in a crowded, indoor place significantly reduced the risk of the wearer infecting other people in the event that the wearer was infected with the Covid-19 virus at the time."

From what I gather, some people consider this to be a political statement. Could anybody please explain how it is?
At face value it isn't political though it could be questioned as to its accuracy. What makes it political is when it is included with government mandates requiring masks based on the assertion that it reduces the risk of infecting others with COVID. There is considerable question/controversy as to whether the mask mandates were warranted, most especially for young children, and also question/controversy whether the masks were effective in preventing the spread of Covid since an awful lot of people got it even though they and everybody else wore masks.
 

McBell

Unbound
At face value it isn't political though it could be questioned as to its accuracy. What makes it political is when it is included with government mandates requiring masks based on the assertion that it reduces the risk of infecting others with COVID. There is considerable question/controversy as to whether the mask mandates were warranted, most especially for young children, and also question/controversy whether the masks were effective in preventing the spread of Covid since an awful lot of people got it even though they and everybody else wore masks.
ONE of the big problems with people wearing masks is that few were actually wearing the masks " in the correct manner"...
 

HonestJoe

Well-Known Member
From what I gather, some people consider this to be a political statement. Could anybody please explain how it is?
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Foxfyre

Member
ONE of the big problems with people wearing masks is that few were actually wearing the masks " in the correct manner"...
Several layers of material were more effective than a single layer but also made it much harder for people to breathe properly. But only the most expensive and biohazard designed masks that most people can't afford will stop a virus. I myself never wore a mask except where I was asked or required to do so and I was around people constantly. I may have had COVID but was never tested and if I got it when I suspected I had it, the symptoms were so mild they were barely noticeable. That would have been early 2020 and I'm pretty certain I've never gotten it since while others, even those who took every precaution and were double vaxxed and boosted got it multiple times.

I don't know what the answers are here. But I have never felt like mask mandates did as much good as they did harm.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
"During the Covid-19 pandemic, wearing a surgical face mask in the correct manner when in a crowded, indoor place significantly reduced the risk of the wearer infecting other people in the event that the wearer was infected with the Covid-19 virus at the time."

From what I gather, some people consider this to be a political statement. Could anybody please explain how it is?
It became political when the government decided to force people to wear them.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
"During the Covid-19 pandemic, wearing a surgical face mask in the correct manner when in a crowded, indoor place significantly reduced the risk of the wearer infecting other people in the event that the wearer was infected with the Covid-19 virus at the time."

From what I gather, some people consider this to be a political statement. Could anybody please explain how it is?
Well wearing a mask makes it much easier for crooks to rob places.
 

McBell

Unbound
Several layers of material were more effective than a single layer but also made it much harder for people to breathe properly. But only the most expensive and biohazard designed masks that most people can't afford will stop a virus. I myself never wore a mask except where I was asked or required to do so and I was around people constantly. I may have had COVID but was never tested and if I got it when I suspected I had it, the symptoms were so mild they were barely noticeable. That would have been early 2020 and I'm pretty certain I've never gotten it since while others, even those who took every precaution and were double vaxxed and boosted got it multiple times.

I don't know what the answers are here. But I have never felt like mask mandates did as much good as they did harm.
It does not matter in the least bit how fancy/expensive/medically approved/effective/etc. a mask you have if you are not wearing it properly....
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Most places I was not legally allowed to wear a mask because I was carrying a firearm...
I remember the days when I could carry a weapon into the airport. Of course it would have to be cleared , in a case , and a large red tag affixed and checked into baggage.

Of course a mask would have raised a few eyebrows though.
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
I had to work during the pandemic and only caught covid for the first time a few weeks ago. It was nice not getting sick during the mask mandate.
I don't consider my opinion and experience to be political. Your mileage may vary.
 

Soandso

ᛋᛏᚨᚾᛞ ᛋᚢᚱᛖ
I remember between the first and second series of lockdowns I went on a road trip and stopped in Idaho for the night. I didn't see a single person wearing a mask. Having worked in a hospital setting, I didn't feel comfortable not wearing one, so I decided to keep it on while I went out and about. Got a lot of weird looks from people there and I had a couple people ask me why I was wearing a diaper on my face. They certainly felt a certain way about people wearing masks there
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
"During the Covid-19 pandemic, wearing a surgical face mask in the correct manner when in a crowded, indoor place significantly reduced the risk of the wearer infecting other people in the event that the wearer was infected with the Covid-19 virus at the time."

From what I gather, some people consider this to be a political statement. Could anybody please explain how it is?
What made it political, was not all masks are created equal and many masks, deemed acceptable, were useless. Big brother in Democrat States would leave you alone, if you wore even a useless mask. It was political and not based on science.

In hospitals, they have special material masks that will magnetically attract virus to stick. This is better than just filtering. They will wear the mask for a task, and then throw its out, even a few minutes later. When COVID began, mask were scarce, while the real masks were expensive, if you could find them. So people used them way too long. The K95, N95 and O95 are 95% efficient. This is still 5% virus break through. If you use a mask too long, it gets coated; inside and outside, and the 5% becomes multiplied. It is 5% for each air stream, but also some extra from the coating as it dislodges and is also drawn in. The magnet masks were hard to find.

If you were at work and needed a mask for sanding drywall, an OSHA; occupational safety agent, would kick you off the job site for wearing just any mask. It makes a big difference. That is dust and not tiny virus.

In the end, there was no significant difference in outcomes for the Liberal lockdown states with masks, versus the open and mask optional Republican states. That is the proof this was politics and not science; 1984 rehearsal. If it was science, we should have seen a large difference. While the DNC would have a parade to brag. The DNC leadership did enjoy their Fascists lockdown, with the mask the sign of that beast. So many children were harmed; lost years of school. The science said children were more immune but politics did not care.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
In the end, there was no significant difference in outcomes for the Liberal lockdown states with masks, versus the open and mask optional Republican states. That is the proof this was politics and not science;
It's not proof. An alternative explanation is that
benefit was reduced by low (non-N95) mask
quality, poor hygiene (eg, touching one's eyes).
I go with recommendations by trusted sources.
While my family here is statistically insignificant,
we took all the precautions, & never tested positive
for Covid 19.
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
What made it political, was not all masks are created equal and many masks, deemed acceptable, were useless. Big brother in Democrat States would leave you alone, if you wore even a useless mask. It was political and not based on science.

In hospitals, they have special material masks that will magnetically attract virus to stick.

You probably mean electrostatically charged, because magnetically attracting virus is not a thing.

This is better than just filtering. They will wear the mask for a task, and then throw its out, even a few minutes later. When COVID began, mask were scarce, while the real masks were expensive, if you could find them. So people used them way too long. The K95, N95 and O95 are 95% efficient. This is still 5% virus break through. If you use a mask too long, it gets coated; inside and outside, and the 5% becomes multiplied. It is 5% for each air stream, but also some extra from the coating as it dislodges and is also drawn in. The magnet masks were hard to find.

If you were at work and needed a mask for sanding drywall, an OSHA; occupational safety agent, would kick you off the job site for wearing just any mask. It makes a big difference. That is dust and not tiny virus.

In the end, there was no significant difference in outcomes for the Liberal lockdown states with masks, versus the open and mask optional Republican states.

The liberal states tend to be much more densely populated though, which is a significant factor when it comes down to spreading the virus.

That is the proof this was politics and not science; 1984 rehearsal. If it was science, we should have seen a large difference. While the DNC would have a parade to brag. The DNC leadership did enjoy their Fascists lockdown, with the mask the sign of that beast. So many children were harmed; lost years of school. The science said children were more immune but politics did not care.

Tell me you know nothing about fascism without telling you know nothing about fascism.
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
I remember between the first and second series of lockdowns I went on a road trip and stopped in Idaho for the night. I didn't see a single person wearing a mask. Having worked in a hospital setting, I didn't feel comfortable not wearing one, so I decided to keep it on while I went out and about. Got a lot of weird looks from people there and I had a couple people ask me why I was wearing a diaper on my face. They certainly felt a certain way about people wearing masks there
Washington state hospitals had to take a lot of Idaho's covid patients since Idaho didn't have any spare hospital beds due to the pandemic.
 
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