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Masnavi

.lava

Veteran Member
hello :) i do not know a good English translation and unfortunately many concepts would get lost in translations. if some concepts he used such as wine was translated directly without explanation for what wine refers to, you might misuderstood as many people do. he never drank wine as we know it for instance because he was a Muslim saint and he followed all the laws of Allah perfectly. anyways... in case you want to know and i think it might help you to find out about these concepts i mentioned, i'll give you this link. this website belongs to his family;

http://www.mevlana.net/default.html

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A-ManESL

Well-Known Member
To add to what .lava is saying above, many of the words Rumi uses have meanings different from which may be understood today. When Rumi says "faith", it is closer to what Sufis call "knowingness". This is different from belief, which sort of implies an inherent choice. Knowingness refers to feeling something internally that effects you and is self-evident and independent enough not to warrant any further proof.

Similarly when Rumi uses the word Islam, he is not referring to what many understand as a set of beliefs but to the whole spiritual way of life based on submission and harmony with God's will. Similarly references to Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) may easily be interpreted as traditional belief, but actually often express a relationship between God and man.

Regards
 

indian tea

Purveyor of Rare Herbs
thank you for the concern....
I am aware of the basics that would be required to understand rumi....

such as concepts of being drunk and sober....
after finishing (am about a 3rd way through)reading Moshe Idel's Ascension on high in Jewish Mysticism I shall be reading The Garden of Truth: The Vision and Promise of Sufism, Islam's Mystical Tradition by Seyyed Hossein Nasr....

so I don't think I will have a problem.... hopefully

but thank you for your concerns, I mainly want the book as a possible xmas present actually..and maybe for myself
 
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